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Member Training – We Can Win!
By Ben McClintock, Thursday, 09 Apr 2026.
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Member Training April 6th 2026
In tonight’s training, we focus on the vital duty God has given us to expose the satanic conspiracy so that we can actually do something about it and evil may be done away, that Satan may have no more power upon the hearts of the children of men. Moroni made it clear that it is wisdom in God that these things should be shown unto us for that very purpose, and Doctrine and Covenants 123 lays out our imperative duty to waste and wear out our lives in bringing to light all the hidden things of darkness, to lighten the burdens of the widows, the fatherless, the rising generation, and all those blinded by the craftiness of men. The yoke of the conspiracy is a heavy iron yoke of chains, shackles, and fetters of hell that only grows stronger as we submit to it through inaction and fear, but the Lord’s burden is light when we take His yoke upon us and actively occupy until He comes, as the parable in Luke 19 commands us to take care of business and produce with what we’ve been given instead of sitting back in a rapture cult mentality of despair, waiting for things to get worse. This false doctrine peddled by fear-mongers leads to depression, hopelessness, and greater burdens because it denies our God-given responsibility to fight evil, warn our neighbor, and rid our garments of the blood of this generation, whereas true obedience, service, and exposing hidden combinations bring purpose, joy, miracles, and the promise that if we hearken to the Lord’s counsel from this very hour, we shall never cease to prevail until the kingdoms of the world are subdued under His feet. We must reject the lies that keep us inactive, plant the seeds we can plant, pull the weeds we can pull, and act with faith like David, Daniel, Moses, Captain Moroni, and so many others so the Lord can fill the gaps and bless our efforts, because only by occupying, exposing, and building effective resistance can we lighten burdens, remove condemnation, establish righteousness, and fulfill our stewardship to become the saviors of men rather than salt that has lost its savor.
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TRANSCRIPT
Dear Holy Father, thank thee for this day, and we thank thee that we could gather together this
time to learn about thee and what we should do to fill up thy kingdom and establish thy
righteousness, and please help us to learn more what to do and to not be caught in idle work.
Help us to remember thee in all things. And I say these things in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.
And so that’s really what I wanted to focus on tonight. It will help us because too often when we
focus on one thing and not another, that leads to a myopic view of the situation,
which is not the amount of information that we need. We need to increase our knowledge on this so
that we can build the understanding and adherence to the principles that have built free nations.
expose this conspiracy and build an effective resistance to that conspiracy. So I want to talk
about the strategy of, you know, we do talk about conspiracy and Moroni in Ether chapter eight
talked about the, the reasoning behind the strategy of exposing the conspiracy.
It says that it’s wisdom in God that these things should be shown unto you. Okay. Thereby that ye,
so that you can do something about thereby that you can do something about it. So we need to know
about those things so that we can act. We don’t know about the bad, then we can’t act on the bad,
right? And Moroni also says that he tells us these things so that evil may be done away.
And at the time may come that Satan may have no power upon the hearts of the children of men. So I
really like both of these, right? God has said that we should see these things and that
understanding these things will help us. to rid us of the evil that is in this world.
Bringing the focus on it doesn’t make it worse, right? If you ignore car problems,
that doesn’t make the car problems go away. Knowing about the car problems and knowing what you can
do to fix it yourself or knowing that you need to go to a mechanic, that will help you to fix the
problem. That will help the problem to go away. And so we need to grasp it with it, but we need to
have it with more of that positive attitude of so that we can do something. about it.
And we don’t get commandments from God unless he provides a way for us to do it. And so we
shouldn’t feel overwhelmed. We shouldn’t feel burdened. The Lord says that his burden is light and
that our burden is light when we put the yoke on him. And so we look at these commandments and
these are designed to make our burden lighter,
not to make it harder. And so if he provides a way and is designed to make our burden light,
then hopefully we’re going to be a lot more excited about doing that work. Right. Because we do
have a duty. And we read here in Doctrine and Covenants section 123.
It is an imperative duty that we owe to God, to angels with whom we shall be brought to stand and
also to ourselves, to our wives and children. who have been made to bow down with grief,
sorrow, and care under the most damning hand of murder, tyranny, and oppression, supported and
urged on and upheld by the influence of that spirit which has so strongly riveted the creeds of the
fathers who have inherited lies upon the hearts of the children of men and filled the world with
confusion and has been growing stronger and stronger. And is now the very mainspring of all
corruption. And the whole earth groans under the weight of its iniquity. So yes,
it’s a heavy situation that we’re in. We don’t deny that at all. But it is a duty that we owe.
And it is an iron yoke. So the yoke of the conspiracy is heavy.
And it is a strong band. They are the very handcuffs and chains and shackles and fetters of hell.
And so when we bow down to it, when we submit to it,
when we don’t fight against it, when we don’t stand up against it, then our burden is actually
heavy. It is, you know, this passive aggressiveness of, you know, if I just keep my head down,
my life will be easier. And there’ll be, you know, it’ll be, I won’t have all of the struggles that
I would have had if I had fought it. But we see here that that is following the conspiracy’s
agenda, not fighting it, not doing anything about it. That is the iron yoke. That is the chains and
shackles. That is, you know, that is hell. Ben, what was that Doctrine and Covenants?
123. Thank you. Yep.
Continuing on the same section. Therefore, it is an imperative duty. So it’s an imperative duty
because. The burden of this evil is heavy. And so to lighten other people’s burdens,
it’s an imperative duty that we owe not only to our own selves and children,
but to the widows and fatherless whose husbands and fathers have been murdered under its iron hand.
Okay. Which dark and blackening deeds are enough to make hell itself shudder and to stand aghast
and pale and the hands of the very devil to tremble, and palsy. So this is pretty big deal that the
evil that is going on right now is akin to even Satan being like,
whoa, that’s a bit much. It’s a bit harsh. But these are black deeds.
And so he’s admitting it. He says, yes, these are horrible, horrible things that we face right now.
The horror that is going on right now is horrible.
It’s an imperative duty that we owe to all the rising generation and to all the pure in heart.
For there are many yet on the earth among all sects, parties, and denominations who are blinded by
the subtle craftiness of men, whereby they lie in wait to deceive, and who are only kept from the
truth because they know not where to find it. So this is the truth for everyone, no matter where
they’re at, because we want to lighten. This burden is on everyone. And we want to lighten that
burden from everyone. And we want Christ’s yoke to be able to be something that will make
everyone’s burdens lighter. And so we do this. And so how do we do this? He says,
therefore, that we should waste and wear out our lives in bringing to light all the hidden things
of darkness wherein we know them, and they are truly manifest from heaven. These should then be
attended to with great earnestness. Let no man count them as small things,
for there is much which lieth in futurity pertaining to the saints, which depends upon these
things. And so to be able to help ourselves and help the widow and the fatherless and everyone that
has been blinded by the craftiness of men, it is our job to help.
in lightening their burdens through wearing out our lives to expose these chains that are upon
everyone. We lighten the chains by showing them that they’re wearing them so that they can then
remove them themselves. They don’t realize what they are. And so we had that stewardship.
And Moroni talked about his stewardship, that he was commanded. to write things so that evil may be
done away with. And so we see that we also have that commandment. We have that stewardship to be
able to ensure that Satan has no more power amongst the children of men.
And that we read in Ether, a lot of things we’ve covered before, but I want us to see it from this
light, not just the light that, yes, the conspiracy is real. Yes, we have a duty to it. But what
does that mean is what I’m really kind of getting down to the nitty gritty of. Of how does that
help? Because he says here that whatsoever nation shall uphold such two combinations to get power
and gain until they shall spread over the nation. Behold, they shall be destroyed for the Lord will
not suffer that the blood of his saints, which shall be shed by them, shall always cry unto him
from the ground for vengeance upon them. And yet he avenged them not. So those widows,
their husbands and the fatherless, their fathers. They are crying to the Lord for vengeance.
And he says that the Lord says that he is going to avenge them.
And that thereby ye may repent of your sins and suffer not that the murderous combination shall get
above you, which are built up to get power and gain. And the work, yea, even the work of
destruction shall come upon you. Yea, even the sword of the justice of the eternal God shall fall
upon you to your overthrow and destruction, if ye shall suffer these things to be.
Okay, so I know widows. I know those that became fatherless because of this conspiracy.
The conspiracy murdered a man and made widows and orphans. Well,
not complete orphans, but made children fatherless because of the conspiracy murdering this
individual. And so we see here that vengeance will be upon them and those that do nothing about it.
And so that again. We lighten our burden by not being under this condemnation and by lifting that
burden, by exposing the hidden things of darkness that have caused these chains to come upon us.
And so one way that fear is brought upon us in the fight for liberty,
in the fight against the conspiracy, is the rapture cult ideology. This is a pastor,
Chuck Baldwin, I think he’s out of Montana. And he gives a great talk called Occupy Until He Comes,
where he goes through that Christian duty that we are lied to about.
And this lie causes more pain, more false burdens upon individuals,
and more hopelessness and despair than any of the lies that I’ve seen out there.
You know, there are a lot of lies that Satan tells and that his minions tell. But of course, his
biggest and his strongest tactic is to get us out of the battle. And so that lie is going to be the
biggest lie because or the most prominent lie that is heaped upon us,
because then it will get his greatest threat out of the way.
And so this threat of, you know, the end times and how things are just going to get worse and worse
and that, you know, as the Savior comes, that there’s nothing that you should do about it,
that you should just allow evil to happen is something that actually not only physically increases
the burdens upon us, but spiritually and mentally drags us down,
puts a heavy burden on us. Whereas we are lied to of, well, isn’t that great?
I don’t have to do anything about it. That relieves the burden from me. But it’s the exact
opposite. When we know we have a conscience, everybody has a conscience. And so with the light of
Christ, we know that every person has a job to be able to warn their neighbor,
to be able to lift another person’s burden, to fight evil,
to expose evil, and to do something about evil. And so when they fall for a lie that says that they
don’t have to do anything about it, they put a burden on themselves. And that burden becomes
tiresome and becomes weary. They become weary because of that burden psychologically. They become
depressed. They become overborn. And so it’s a vital thing that we understand and that we fight
against ourselves and against others. But I want to share this clip from his talk. That really
helps us to… A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom and to
return. And he called his ten servants and delivered them ten pounds and said unto them,
Occupy till I come. And I really like this statement that Jesus uses in this parable.
Because again, the premise is,
The establishing of God’s kingdom on earth.
In Acts chapter one, he told them whenever they ask him after his resurrection, as we just read,
it’s not for you to know. It’s not for you to know.
Tell that to these prophecy preachers on television. You know,
write them a little note and say, it’s not for you to know. And you don’t know. And you are
deceiving people by telling them that you do know.
It is not for you to know. You’re pretending that you know. You don’t know. But here,
Jesus, again, right before Passion Week, right before the resurrection,
he’s telling them, Occupy till I come.
Till I come.
When are you coming? It doesn’t matter.
Occupy till I come. The word occupy in the Greek means to take care of business,
to take care of business. That’s what the word means. And it fits the parable because Jesus is
describing men that are given an economic assignment or a financial assignment.
Here I’ve given you a pound, the nobleman says in the parable,
and I want you, my servants, to invest. this pound,
and I want you to make good use of this pound, and I want you to show a return for the investment
that I’ve given you. I’ve invested a pound in you, and I want you to show me that I’ve invested it
wisely and that you’re going to show a return for this investment. So that’s why the word occupy is
used in this parable. But for us, The word is so fitting because it tells us that whenever Jesus
chooses to return, and no one knows when that is or will be, we have a job to do,
and that job is to take care of business. So whatever the business is that God has given us to do,
we are to do it. faithfully until he comes.
Okay, so occupying until he comes. I think that in Luke, this is just such an important parable on
so many levels, especially what it has to do with liberty. But I want to go over just kind of
recapping the things that he just talked about and what Luke 19 covers. In the parable,
Jesus talks about a nobleman, and of course that’s representing the Lord who leaves to receive a
kingdom. But before he goes, he gives his servants money and tells them to occupy until I come.
In other words, don’t sit around waiting, but get to work, do business,
produce something, be engaged. Whereas the rapture cult mentality is the exact opposite.
It’s the child in the long car ride that says, are we there yet?
Right. And when are we going to get there? If I’ve still got young ones that as we travel,
I hear that regularly is when are we going to get there? Well, what does that change? Right.
What when we get to the destination, when the Lord returns, does that change how we behave in the
meantime? It shouldn’t.
It hasn’t in the history of Christianity. The founding fathers didn’t say, well, when is he?
Are you coming yet, Lord? When is he coming? And then they just sat back and waited for the Lord to
return as the world and as King George got more and more tyrannical. That is not right.
This, Luke 19, is what the founding fathers stuck to and why we have the Constitution and why
America was the free place that it was for as long as it was is because these men decided that they
weren’t going to just say, Are we there yet? When are we going to get there? They were like,
we need to take care of business. We need to do the right thing right now. And then I hope I get
caught not resting on the shovel, but I hope I get caught doing something to make the vineyard
better than it was when I got here.
Continuing on, when the Lord returns, he calls his servants to account. The ones who actually used
what they were given and increased it are rewarded with even greater responsibility.
and authority, but the servant who did nothing, who just did what he was given out of fear,
is rebuked. What little he had is taken away and given to someone who was productive.
This is very similar to the parable of the talents, but it is in,
I think to me, an even greater context to our everyday lives of this person that is living in fear
and how The rapture cult leads us to live in fear.
And so those types of people will be rebuked and what was given to them will be taken away.
They will lose what they had and they will be rebuked for being a slothful and an unwise servant.
And so. But those people that were actively engaged, that were working to make the vineyard a
better place, they found purpose. They found joy. And when the Lord returned,
they were rewarded.
So the message is clear that Christ didn’t call his followers to passively wait for his return.
He told them to occupy, to work, to build, to be productive with what they’ve been given until he
comes back. Those who faithfully do something with what they’ve been entrusted with are given more,
but those who refuse to act can lose even what they had. So in the world today,
I gave a lesson on our talk on this a year or two ago about how the conspiracy has put out these
two different studies claiming why depression rates are higher.
in Utah than anywhere else in the country. And they had two different claims of why depression was
higher here. The first one was that because of our elevation is what the claim was.
And so that’s just preposterous because we’ve always been at this elevation. But the increase in…
depression rates has had no correlation with an increase in the altitude.
Secondly, the second reason that they gave, the other study gave was that because we are an overly
religious culture and that that puts pressure on people and depresses them. Well,
I would say that the history shows the exact opposite, that it is when we were more religious,
right? We are less religious now as As religiousness, religious adherence has decreased,
depression and suicide has increased. And so it is not the increase of obedience to the Lord and
his commandments that leads to depression. It is the knowledge of God’s commands that we disobey or
don’t obey that leads to those things. Even if we don’t know them, we know that our behavior is not
pleasing. to God, to the Spirit, and that it affects us.
But both of those ideas lead to inactivity. And so it is activity.
It is service to other people. It is obedience to God, which is one of God’s commandments. So
obedience to God’s commandments, which includes fighting evil, lighting people’s burdens through
whatever those burdens are, whether they are helping other people’s financial burdens or their
labor burdens. or the burdens of being lost and blinded to the chains that are on them because of
the conspiracy. As we do that, we lighten our own burdens. We make the vineyard a better place.
And we are rewarded when the Lord returns. And we are rewarded now.
And so, right, the rapture cult teachers are peddlers of fear and fears of the devil.
And in action, so they are peddlers of fear and inaction. And that they should be ignored
personally, so you should ignore them, and you should expose them to others. Because that is a part
of our wasting and wearing on our lives, exposing the hidden things of darkness, is exposing those
that are pushing this rapture, you know, any variation of the rapture called ideology.
There’s many different variations of it, and it is important and is vital for us in lifting other
people’s burdens that we help them. to expose that lie that we shed light on that hidden thing of
darkness that is masquerading as religious devotion, but is actually a teaching of Satan to get us
to be inactive, to be full of fear, to allow evil to continue and to go unopposed.
So despair, though, is caused by fear and inaction. And work and service help us to overcome that
despair.
So our God, of course, is a God of miracles. The things that we face,
of course, as we’ve covered in trainings over and over again, are horrible.
But Satan has been at work for, you know, a lot millennia.
But that has not stopped miracles from existing or from happening when people act anyways,
even though it looks overwhelming, even though the odds seem impossible when people did what the
Lord, what they knew the Lord wanted them to do, that the Lord provided the way,
right? I gave this example before of our gardens and how I can’t provide sunshine.
I can’t provide rain. but I can plant seeds. I can pick weeds. I can make sure that the hoses are
available if I get provided water or I can have the trenches dug so that way when the rain comes
that the crops will be watered. Those are things that I can do that if I didn’t do when God
provided sunshine, when God provided rain, then if I didn’t plant the seeds and I didn’t provide a
way for those seeds to be watered, What good would the watering and the rain do for my seeds?
The same thing in the fight for liberty. There are things that I can’t do.
But if I don’t do what I can do, then the Lord cannot bless my efforts because I have no efforts to
bless. And so, you know, we have to do the things that will allow the Lord to bless something.
We look at David and Goliath, right? The odds were against David. Goliath was an unmatched
competitor and had much more physical strength, but the Lord showed David how he could take Goliath
down. We have Daniel and the lion’s den, whereas in any reasonable situation where an individual is
spending the night with lions, they are not going to survive, but the Lord filled the gap. Same
thing with Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. Not a whole lot you can do against a fiery furnace.
but the Lord filled the gap.
Moses in the parting of the Red Sea, right? The Egyptians were almost on them and were about to
overtake them. But Moses took action. He got as far to the Red Sea as he could get and he used his
staff and the Lord filled in the gaps, did the rest. And then what if the Lord had separated the
Red Sea, but the Israelites, had refused to cross on the dry ground.
What good would have parting the Red Sea done? So they still had to take action.
It wasn’t like God did everything for them. They still had to take action. And once they had
crossed, then their enemies were destroyed. And in today’s world, the destruction of our enemies is
something that is looked down upon, the idea that we desire the destruction of our enemies. I
desire the repentance or destruction of it. They won’t repent. I absolutely desire their
destruction just as the Egyptians were destroyed as they chased the Israelites.
Captain Moroni and the title of Liberty. Definitely a situation where they were in an underdog
situation, but the Lord filled the gap. Ammon in defending the flocks and many of the king’s men
had been killed. or had been injured because of the large body of people that had come to steal the
flocks of the king. But Ammon by himself, well, not by himself,
physically by himself, but with the Lord’s help, was able to overcome overwhelming odds and was
able to defeat the enemies that were destroying the flocks. Joshua in the Battle of Jericho is a
famous example. Elijah in the Prophets of Baal.
Gideon is defeating the Midianites. And Esther is saving her people.
Paul and Silas in prison and having the prison walls come down to free them.
So over and over again. This isn’t even, of course, all of the examples. But we see over and over
again in the scriptures that when the people act, the Lord fills in the gaps.
So if we look at the situation that we’re in and we say, wow, it’s so overwhelming. Four
conspirators under every rock and two on top. There’s nothing we can do about it because we’re so
overwhelmed and overnumbered and outnumbered. Well, others have faced the same or more difficult
situations. And because they acted, they were able to overcome.
But if they had not acted, they would not have been able to overcome. We have to be able to take
those steps, as these individuals did, to be able to have the Lord intercede.
I know that the Lord will intercede as we act. He has proven himself in the past.
He has made the promise for us today. And we have examples of these things overcoming today,
the growth, the wins that we’ve already had. We have a 20% month after month growth of people
viewing and reading our materials. We continue to expand our reach into places that we hadn’t been
before. We have more speaking engagements where we can reach more and more people. We have views of
our videos, you know, the reach, the more people getting informed about these things,
having these hidden things of darkness lit up for them. We have a fantastic team of talented
researchers and volunteers that help us to present these things in a more effective manner. Because
of this, we received a leaked skull and bones document that we did a video on, several videos on,
that now because of our previous actions, we were able to get more information that then helped us
to do more things, which has helped to be able to expose this evil more than we had before,
fulfilling that responsibility. We are seen as the reasonable expert on satanic ritual abuse among
those that cover the topic, where you have On one extreme, you have those that will anybody that
claims to be a victim. They, you know, they are accepted and they are brought in to tell their
story. And then you have on the other extreme, you have individuals that poo poo the whole entire
thing and say none of it’s real. But, you know, we go through and say, oh, well,
here’s the evidence. Here’s what we know. Here’s what we can prove. And here’s what’s likely, you
know, and distinguishing between those two things. And so we are the people that are able to help
awaken people to satanic ritual abuse and the danger that’s going on there and the burden that it
brings upon the people because we’re not, you know, the boy that cried wolf and we’re not the
naysayer. So we have exciting things to get done that should never put us down,
should never depress us. We are working to establish Zion. We are working to build the kingdom of
God. We are working to destroy certain combinations and evil and binding Satan. This is the exact
opposite of the rapture cult. The rapture cult says evil will increase. You do nothing.
You sit there and watch evil happen. And you are excited about that because that means that the
Savior is coming even quicker as we go on.
diabolical doctrine has been established and you know the the amount of death mayhem destruction
torture and evil that has occurred in the world because of that damnable doctrine that could have
been stopped if Christians did their duty to occupy until they come.
Because occupying until they come is a beautiful thing. It is a thing that will lift you up.
It is a thing that will lift your burdens. It’s a thing that will make the job of exposing evil
easier. And it is a thing that will allow the Lord to provide the miracles that we need that would
not, that could not happen if we were stuck in the rapture cult of doing nothing,
waiting for evil to get bad enough for the Lord to say, okay, it’s bad enough. I need to return
now. And so this is something that we need to stick with us and so that we can overcome and
persevere through the hard times and so that we can be the people that God needs to occupy until he
comes so that. we can have that blessing that is necessary to accomplish the beauty that we are
here to accomplish and to become God’s people. So some of the things to become God’s people,
right?
The Lord has said, this is a Doctrine and Covenants thing. Sorry. 103,
yeah. We have this revelation from the Lord. It says, and that those who call themselves after my
name, so if you want to be God’s people, might be chastened for a little season with a sore and
grievous chastisement because they didn’t hearken altogether under the precepts and commandments
which I gave unto them. So if we do not hearken under those precepts,
we will be chastened. But verily I say unto you that I have decreed a decree which my people shall
realize inasmuch as they hearken from this very hour under the counsel which I the Lord their God
shall give unto them to expose.
That is a promise that we have received,
that if we will do as we are told to do, that we know that we are told to do, then we will start to
prevail. We will begin to prevail. That prevailing will begin right now as we continue,
as we start, and then as we continue, we’ll grow. And by hearkening to observe all the words which
I, the Lord, their God, shall speak unto them, they shall never cease to prevail until the kingdoms
of the world are subdued under my feet and the earth is given unto the saints to possess it forever
and ever.
But in as much as they keep not my commandments and hearken not to observe all my words,
the kingdoms of the world shall prevail against them. For they were set to be a light unto the
world and to be the saviors of men. And inasmuch as they are not the saviors of men, they are as
salt that has lost its savor and is thenceforth good for nothing but to be cast out and trodden
under foot of men. Nevertheless, if they pollute their inheritances, they shall be thrown down,
for I will not spare them if they pollute their inheritances. So no matter who we are,
no matter who we think we are, if we don’t live up to that responsibility, right?
If we don’t live, then our burdens will be increased. We do not hearken under the words,
right? He says that they shall never, I’d say the kingdoms of the world shall prevail.
That is a heavy burden to be borne. If we want to remove that burden and have the joy of the Lord,
we need to occupy and ensure that this evil doesn’t continue.
And a part of removing the condemnation. that is upon us we have this commandment and your minds in
times past have been darkened because of unbelief and because you have treated lightly the things
you have received which vanity and belief have brought the whole church under condemnation and this
condemnation resteth upon the children of zion even all and they shall remain under this
condemnation until they repent and remember the commandments of the lord okay And then he tells us
over and over again how we remove that condemnation is by ridding our garments of the blood of this
generation. How do we rid the blood of this generation’s garments? How do we rid our garments of
the blood of this generation? It is by warning our neighbor. It is by preaching. It is by wasting
and wearing out our lives, exposing the hidden things of darkness. If we don’t do that,
then we have their burden on us. If we are obedient individually and collectively,
we can begin to overcome our enemies from this very hour. We don’t have a need to fear.
We have an amazing opportunity and work to perform that is beyond anything that we can imagine,
if we will do it, if we don’t succumb to the lies. that are told to us to be inactive.
But those miracles that we’ve seen in the past can continue and will continue to happen if we give
the Lord something to bless. So I’m going to look through the chat, but if anybody has any
questions or comments, anything they want to chime in, now’s the time to do it before the news
over. But yes, Micah.
I just wanted to mention that if you wanted to help, if you want to participate in the catalog that
we… already and you don’t know where to start or whatever we already have lists of stuff that
needs to get into it and sort it through great
thank you
let’s see here mark the very informative and valuable lesson tonight uh this rapture cult if i have
a few points if i made but this rapture called ideology uh it so you point out that our burdens our
trials will increase if we give into that will be not better off.
But my big point is such a denial of the scripture. The scriptures,
both Old Testament and New Testament, are filled with ordinances, commandments, precepts,
statutes that we are to carry out. One report is like over 1,200 of them.
And so why is God giving us all these laws to carry out? When we’re not supposed to carry out,
we’re just supposed to sit back and wait for the rapture. It’s completely denying God’s message to
us through the Holy Scripture. Does that make sense? I agree with you 100%.
And one other thing, you know, fear.
Mature people do not give in to fear. And I’m seeing more and more of that in our cultures.
It continues to decline. You do what’s right. You don’t give in to gloom.
Kate Dolly used to have a Friday show where we’re not going to be heavy tonight. There won’t be any
doom. We’ll feel good tonight. It’s important to feel good. Do you think a brain surgeon in the
middle of an operation finds a difficult tumor to remove and the odds are he’s not going to be
successful? Gives in to gloom? Does a soldier on the battlefield,
when he realizes he’s probably going to die and the rest of his unit’s going to die,
does he give in to it? No, he will continue to fight. And this idea that, and I think America,
this culture is really getting even worse. young, he didn’t see as much of this. You get more
motivated the worse the situation is to act. You don’t surrender and give into childish emotions
like fear. Does that make sense? 100%. Yep.
I agree. Amen.
Yeah, and thanks for bringing up Chuck Paul. I’m a big fan of his. The only thing I disagree a
little bit, I think he thinks more of the conspiracy of Zionistic and
jew jewish control where i think that’s only a major part of it but other than that he’s really got
his eyes open to what’s happening and uh and he’s a very rational logical man absolutely and and
scripturally sound i think i agree any
comments well
i’ll give one more if i may um you know you’re right we do have a duty and and there’s a major
price we pay for not carrying out that duty I mean, salvation, I think, is online. But because it’s
a question of a child of God. But for somebody that doesn’t believe in God,
do you care about mankind? If you have any care for humanity,
you oppose what’s happening. And you brought up a point really early on.
You can’t start caring if you don’t understand the problem. You don’t understand the seriousness.
Generally, you can’t solve a problem almost always unless you identify the problem. And most
Americans have a very inefficient or inadequate understanding of the problem and also of severity.
So that’s why we have to keep teaching. What is tyranny? What is liberty?
What is God’s law? What is the constitutional law that protects liberty and all that?
So I think that’s such an important part of this. uh uh solution absolutely thank you okay
i’m gonna give everybody else one more chance and then we’ll close the meeting and we’ll go into
open forum so one more chance any questions comments okay
i guess i’m in the chat what would you say to someone who asks what did brigham and john taylor do
about dmc what did they do about it They were always exposing it. John Taylor gave many talks,
one of the talks I mentioned specifically about where he,
well, in the article in the Deseret News, where he says that the things that we are witnessing is
the results of a deep, laid, and carefully planned conspiracy. He warned about the conspiracy. He
organized the people. You have warnings and organized efforts by Brigham Young as well to waste and
wear out. his life to expose those hidden things of darkness. I would encourage someone to read
more of their talks if they don’t know what they did to implement DNC 123.
So, but thank you for that question. Do you have any studies supporting that view?
Which, oh, on antidepressant studies, supporting my view that I do
not have any studies. supporting that obeying God’s commandments will lead to,
because no conspirator would pay for a study that said that being obedient to God’s commandments
would make you happier. But I will see what I can find to see. I don’t have anything off the top of
my mind, but I’ll see if I can come up with anything that might help with any evidence-based
materials for my assertion. So besides the scriptures, I think the scriptures are pretty…
clear on that fact. Mark?
Yeah, because I think we need to think about happiness not only in this world, but in the next
world. And if you’re not paying God’s commandment, it’s questionable if you’re a child of God at
the least. Yep. So Amy says that, but the religion goes down and antidepressants go up.
So that’s just, that is just observational, right? I think it is undisputable that,
undisputable that religion and religious participation has gone down and it is also um something
that the conspiracy at least puts out there is that uh people well i think that the data would show
that more people are on antidepressants and that suicide is is up so i think that you know just the
experiential of of the society shows that that’s the case simon yeah
i just think that there’s one real good case study actually too that is the bible and the book of
mormon you have when the people are obedient they prosper not only they prosper but they’re happy
and it’s a if there’s your case study right there it’s in the scriptures amen a hearty amen mark In
existential psychology, some studies have shown if you have meaning and purpose to your life,
you’re psychologically healthier.
It’s not an easy thing to measure, but it has been shown to be true.
Franco, I think his name, did a lot of research in that area.
god gives us a purpose god give us a law because it gives us a life that we need to be living so
that gives us purpose that gives us meaning and according to that uh excuse me that uh a field of
since i call it or uh i i’ve lost the terms that orientation that uh to psychotherapy uh and they
that it is very important to have something like uh It’s not religious,
but the findings are following God, following the law is psychologically healthy,
just in its own right.
Great. Okay.
Well, let’s have a closing prayer. And I’d like to ask,
let’s see here. Linda, are you available to give a closing prayer?
Just got to unmute.
One, two, three. Okay, I didn’t hear from you. There,
there. Linda, please. I found it. I’m so slow with my technology.
All right. Thank you. Our dear Father in heaven, as we come before thee this night,
we want to thank thee for the words of wisdom and thy guidance that we have received.
We ask you to bless us that we might be able to open our hearts and understand and act upon the
things that we learn and know to be true. We ask you to bless all of those who are searching,
that we might be able to reach them and share with them information and guidance as well.
We ask you to bless us now that that will watch over us, guide us, protect us,
and… Give us peace and confidence in our own hearts that we might be able.
to influence those around us. These things we pray for in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.
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