Member training from February 16th 2026.

In tonight’s member training, we’re going to be looking at one of the most effective weapons the conspiracy uses against those of us who are awake — and that is getting us to quit. I want to show you the documented evidence of how they mock us, how they laugh at us, and how they view anyone outside their elite class as disposable. We’re going to look at the real data on why good people are leaving the liberty fight, break down the propaganda tactics they’ve been using since World War II to demoralize and neutralize us, and expose why the conventional approaches — the voting harder, the lobbying, the rallies — are all designed by the conspiracy to burn you out and spit you out with nothing to show for it. Most importantly, I want to make the case tonight that giving up is not a morally acceptable option, and I’m going to lay the groundwork for what the real revolution looks like — one built on understanding, morality, and unity through division — which we’ll be going into much greater detail on next week.

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TRANSCRIPT

Our eternal Father in heaven, we are so grateful to you this evening
for the chance together to discuss concepts of liberty and discuss principles
of righteousness. We ask that the Spirit be with us this evening as we listen and
we also ask that the Spirit be with Brother Ben, as he gives the lesson, we ask
you to watch over and protect us, guide us, and we offer this prayer in the name
of the worthy son, Jesus Christ, amen. In the email, I talk about connecting dots,
and that is a part of it. But as I was going over it, there were some key points
that I felt we kind of needed to shift over to the fact that the conspiracy wants
us to give up. I’ve talked about this in the past, the idea of black pilling and
whatnot.
But there has been, I want to, there’s documentation and there are stats that I
want to share with you tonight. And of course, everything that we do is always to
be able to build our understanding and encourage you throughout the week to do
something that will help you build your understanding, especially focused on reading
something, reading something the Founding Fathers read that they suggested we read,
their own words, making sure that we are expanding our level of understanding.
Give you an example this week, Micah and I were talking about a book and on the
Hellfire Club. And so he was looking at that book, and I actually found another
book on the Hellfire Club. And so We’re both increasing our understanding of early,
early organizations of the conspiracy in the last 300 years.
And we’re actually going to be talking about that in the future presentation.
Of course, our purpose is not just to know things. Our purpose is to build
understanding of and then adherence to the principles that have built free nations.
We need to expose the conspiracy and not only expose it but to build an effective
opposition to it and so that’s what every training that we do is focused on helping
us to accomplish and so with that there are some things that i wanted that to kind
of show us what they think about us and so that hopefully we will see this in
light of the idea of them trying to get us to quit the battle for liberty.
This is a recent interview that just came out from a so -called Lady Victoria
Hervey, who is a British aristocrat and Prince Andrew’s ex -girlfriend and defender.
If you don’t remember who Prince Andrew is. In a previous training, we showed his
interview. That was just a complete and total disaster. And his indisputed involvement
in Jeffrey Epstein has led to him being not only removed from the royal palace,
but he’s had his title of prince removed. and they’re trying to distance themselves
as much as they can from him so that way they can compartmentalize and make you
think that they’re taking care of the problem when they just like we covered in
killing no murder or the right to sort against tyranny that they have these fall
guys that they use to make you think that things are being solved but anyways she
is his ex -girlfriend while he was married and she is still a current defender of
him despite all of the information that has come out about Andrew. And so I thought
it was important for you to see what she has to say about you. He knew everybody
that was very powerful. So like if you were on the scene and you were powerful,
like to be honest, like if you’re not in those files, it would be an insult
because it just means that you were a bit of a loser. Right. So the people who
aren’t in the files are legal. Yes.
They’re laughing about, or she’s laughing about it, right? If you’re not in the
files, you’re a loser. It’s an insult not to be listed amongst Epstein’s satanic
cadre of co -conspirators. That,
That, of course, not his co -conspirators if he’s the head of this conspiracy, but
just that class of individuals, the satanic conspiracy, basically they are,
well, not basically, they are literally laughing at you and calling you a loser for
not being a part of the conspiracy. And then as we go to one of the other emails
that were a part of the Epstein file dump.
We have this individual, Barry Josephson, who is a Hollywood producer, a show that
you might recognize. And I know some people that are considered themselves
conservatives found this TV series to be very,
they enjoyed it. They thought it was really good, talking about Washington spies. And
so he writes an email to Jeffrey Epstein regarding a conversation Jeffrey Epstein and
Bill Gates had with one another. He says, also, I’ve been thinking a lot about that
question that you asked Bill Gates. Now, the question is, how do we get rid of
poor people as a whole? And I have an answer, comment regarding that for you.
When can I call you today to discuss this? So he’s really excited about this
conversation and this question, this idea that Epstein and Gates had with each other.
And he wants to have his input on how do we get rid of all the poor people?
And so this is. Notice what he didn’t say to get rid of poverty, by the way. Oh,
yeah, exactly. He didn’t say, how do we solve the problem of poverty? We want to
solve the problem of homelessness. We need to get rid of poor people. What’s the
problem with poor people?
They’re useless eaters.
One of the reasons why they have to, of course, get rid of the population where
you see at the Georgia Guidestones, where they want to get rid of everybody on
earth except for 500 ,000 people. Or You’ve got Jacques Cousteau. He says he wants
to get rid of several hundred thousand people every single day. This is what, you
know, this is their mindset. And so they do not like and poor to them,
right? What’s poor to them compared to poor to us? And,
you know, not that it’s, you know, okay, but what they’re talking about, when they
talk about poor they’re talking about people that most of us would consider middle
class even and so even maybe even other middle class anybody not of the elite class
is what they’re talking about how do we get rid of anybody that’s lesser than us
is what he’s talking about so they laugh about us they call you a loser if you’re
not a part of them and they want to get rid of you We’ve shown how they talk
about this. We’ve shown how they admit it. This is interesting as well because there
was a TED talk that Bill Gates gave about how to control the population.
And in that talk about making and bringing down the population, he said that
vaccines were a major part of that. And so, you know, the conspiracy and he talked
about how that was um you know uh counterintuitive and the conspiracies the
conspiracy um tried to do a fact check on it with oh that’s not what he meant you
know he was just talking about how do we um get rid of the uh you know make sure
that people aren’t dying and get rid of the sick pop you know make sure that
people aren’t dying so they they of course lie and they covered up these people
talk amongst themselves how to get rid of the rest of us okay this is the evidence
they hate us and they mock us and they know that there is a certain part of the
population that is aware of them and their agenda and so they they kind of split a
little bit of their propaganda amongst who are they talking to are Are they talking
to the asleep people that don’t understand what’s going on and they try to keep
them asleep by poo -pooing conspiracy? And then you have the other group of people
that they’re talking to that won’t believe them when they say that they are that
there’s no conspiracy. And so those people, they really focus on neutralizing them
with either fake conspiracies or to get them to give up.
And so I talk about fake conspiracies, but now I want to talk about they want you
to give up. So we go back to World War II, and this is, I think, a really good
example of a practical application of how a organized effort to get someone to give
up is applied. And so these are some propaganda posters about Tokyo Rose and this
character that was created. And if you’ve never heard of Tokyo Rose,
I’m going to go over, what is that? Tokyo Rose was a World War II era mythical
name for several English -speaking female broadcasters who hosted Japanese propaganda
radio to demoralize the troops, okay, the allied troops,
a British and American troops, because it was in English.
And so how would they use this propaganda to demoralize the troops?
Okay.
We have here, they would talk, they would give, they would air over the radio
demoralizing statements. Things like, now you guys, how about a song? Let’s see what
the boys in the South Pacific are doing. I know you’re going to be brokenhearted
when I tell you this, but you’ve lost this at this and this. Then they would taunt
about home life. Do you know who your new wife is sleeping with tonight? Is it
your best friend back home? They also emphasizing helplessness.
I’m filled with sadness for you because of the thousands of Japanese soldiers, safe
in caves and pillboxes, your bombs and shells can’t touch, they are reluctantly
waiting to slaughter you. And then we have the zero hour featured popular American
music designed to trigger homesickness interrupted by news of Japanese victories.
So they’re outside of, you have the troops and they’re outside of basically you know
american radio and so uh range and so they would listen to these japanese broadcast
of music that they enjoyed and of course it was done by the japanese government to
lure them into listening to it to get them homesick with the music that they miss
as well as these propaganda pieces talking about military losses, basically telling
them that it’s too late. There’s nothing they can do about it, telling them that,
you know, we’re safe. There’s nothing you can do to hurt us. We’re just waiting for
you to get here so we can slaughter you because there’s nothing you can do to harm
us. And so you had this over and over again, this idea or this effort to get the
troops to give up. And so this is what they,
this is what they do to us. Those that they know are awake that won’t fall for
the lie that they don’t exist and hoping that we will fall for the lie that they
are all powerful that nothing can be done.
And so this is something that we’re seeing happen a lot, especially right now with
a lot of different things politically, not just the Epstein files, but things that
are going on in the legislatures or in Congress, and just a regular cycle of how
they operate to get us to give up all the time. So this isn’t just right now.
These are just some things that have happened recently as a part of their ongoing
effort in cycles to get people to give up okay so today we have people saying that
we just need to move on from the Epstein files white hats these you know these
good guys these Q and on talks about are are coming to save you so this is you
giving up because you don’t have to do anything because somebody’s going to save you
I actually got a text on this today somebody was saying good things are happening
you know that this is all 3D chess going on and and that Trump’s really going to
swoop in and save us from these pettos.
Then we have this, we have things people saying, literally I’ve had this being told
to me, well, what are you going to do about it, right? Yes, all these things are
true, but so what are you going to do about it? There’s nothing you can do about
it. So don’t even try. Then you have that no one’s going to be held accountable,
right? So why try? Then you have just wait till the election, right? If we can
just get enough Republicans in Congress, we’re going to stop those dim pedos.
Or it’s just too big to fight. There’s nothing that you can do because it’s so
huge. Or you have the idea of arrests are being made. You know, right?
You had this especially going on during the fake pandemic where they had people
believing propaganda that the shutdown was actually so that Trump could go in and
arrest all of these satanic pedo networks. And so they’re all designed to get you
not to do anything, whether they’ve gotten you to be so distraught that you give up
or that you think, oh, there’s a good guy taking care of this for me. So now I
don’t have to do anything myself. So even though some are positive, some are
negative, they are both affecting the same idea. They are using propaganda to get
you to do nothing, to give up. Okay.
And so we need to recognize this whenever we see it and just think to ourselves,
oh, is this making me feel that there’s nothing to be done? Well, then there we go
this is a modern -day Tokyo rose I’m not going to fall for
so but what are the results so I’ve said over and over again that the average
involvement in politics is just limited to a cycle usually two years sometimes you
know but between two and five years roughly is is the average from my experience I
haven’t done a study on this but just from my own personal observations that’s
that’s two five years and so but actually someone recently provided me some put
together some data they did some interviews they put together this graphic from the
data that they’ve been able to gather this is from the the lady in on the state
school board that I interviewed recently if you watch that interview on our website
or on our YouTube channel. And she noticed some people that were leaving the
political fight. I would say the liberty fight, not, you know, leaving the political
fight to me would be a good thing. But as long as they’re not leaving the fight
in general, but we can see here what she really means is leaving the fight for
liberty is what’s going on. And so she didn’t say who was a part of putting this
questionnaire together, but this group of individuals,
they asked grassroots leaders why they stopped participating, why they left,
and then gathered together the top six reasons, and then provided some quotes at the
bottom that I’m going to go over, okay? And so the first one is the people are
not considered one of the stakeholders. So this is something that you’ll see all the
time, especially at state legislatures across the country and at,
of course, in Congress, is they will say something like, we brought all the
stakeholders together to discuss this issue okay whether you know whatever it is
police property right housing schools whatever it is they’re they they are pulling
together a group of what they call stakeholders to discuss the issue and discuss so
-called solutions but what they’re what these people that you know aren’t conspirators
because you know they’re not conspirators because they’re just influenced by the
conspiracy because they quit. If they were conspirators, they would have said, oh,
okay, I’m just going to make sure that I’m one of those stakeholders and keep
things going. So what they noticed was that all these stakeholders, so -called
stakeholders, are controlled organizations, controlled groups, controlled individuals,
people that will ensure that the identified problem and the identified solution are
all labeled within the acceptable criteria of course you know expanding government
so but it’s not you know the average joe constituents aren’t a part of this this
is all tailored and they call it stakeholders it’s like oh you’re not a teacher
right? So you’re not a part of this. Oh, but don’t I pay property taxes? How am I
not a stakeholder of schools if I pay property tax? And so they try to say,
oh, you don’t have a voice on this. It’s kind of like the abortion thing. Well,
you’re not a woman. You can’t talk about abortion. Oh, really, as a man, I can’t
say murdering babies is bad. It’s crazy. And so they just notice how the legislature
or how elected officials are very effective at keeping a gatekeeping and making sure
that the public is not really involved in making decisions as we as we know
obviously because it’s conspiracy but these individuals that don’t understand the
conspiracy are identifying the fruits of the conspiracy
the constitution is arbitrarily used used, right? They’ll only use the Constitution as
the reason why they do something when it serves their purposes, or they’ll twist it
to serve their purposes. But most of the time, it’s completely ignored. And so these
individuals are noticing that. You can’t bring up the Constitution because they don’t
care. The Constitution for these people in power is there as a prop, not as an
actual guard guardrail against abuse of power.
Hey,
Moses, can give me a glass of water, please?
Thank you.
Logic, constitutional principles, and real solutions can’t override NGO agenda.
So non -governmental organization agendas. Because these people don’t understand the
conspiracy they don’t understand what these NGO what actually are these are all
conspirator organizations and yes logic because they you can’t use logic against these
people because it’s they’re not ignorant they’re
they’re not doing it because they just need one more sternly written letter that
helps explain it to them they don’t need the Constitution explained to them because
they’re not violating it on accident, right? Real solutions that are within those
bounds can’t be made because we’re dealing with a conspiracy. These people are just
kind of their, because they’re lost because they don’t understand the conspiracy.
They’re thinking of it as, oh, these are just some lobbyist groups that just have
so much power somehow and They just won’t listen to reason because of these NGOs
that we can’t overcome.
Thank you, Moses.
Then we have the establishment branch and leadership.
And leadership bills run the big, important stuff.
So, of course, you know, and that’s what I’ve talked about before in the past. You
have leadership, which is the president of the Senate, and as well as the Speaker
of the House. They control who gets appointed to the committees.
And they, especially the Rules Committee, and the Rules Committee is the committee
that decides where bills go, what committee the bills go to to be heard.
And so if it’s a good bill, what they do is they ensure that that bill never
leaves rules, never gets assigned to a committee. Now, if it’s too, if it has too
much buzz about it and they have to have a vote on it, then they’ll find a
committee that will kill the bill. So that way, the majority of the body won’t be
held accountable for that vote. Be like, oh, man, if that had just made it to the
floor, I would have voted for that. And so they make sure that good bills get
killed and bad bills get the, you know, the fast forward button.
And bills that are really controversial, they really don’t want to get the light of
day. They will hide it in rules until the last day and then you’ll have like 300
bills that are passed on the last day of the session and they and they bypass the
committees and they just go for you know a unanimous consent and we don’t even have
like a a record of who voted yes on it it’s just like oh everybody voted okay
there’s they’ll do it an audible vote and they’ll be like oh that sounds like more
yeses so there’s not even a record of who voted yes or who voted no and then your
legislator can pretend like oh man I was against that horrible thing and but there’s
no record to prove one way or the other and so they’re noticing this and not
recognizing it being done on purpose they’re just seeing all of these different
hurdles to being effective opposed to recognizing that all of this is being organized
and being done on purpose.
Most reps agree behind the scenes, and then they vote for it anyway. So your
representative will lie to you and say, oh, yeah, I’m on your side. And then when
it comes to vote on it, they’re going to vote the conspiracies agenda. Then a
broken, corrupt process that favors corporations and takes your time, energy, and
money. I’ve talked about us lot is we understand the things that I’m talking about
we’ll save you we’ll save you time we’ll save you money and doing it on the things
that actually work but it’s not broken it’s working exactly see they don’t understand
the conspiracy so they think it’s broken they think it’s just corrupt they don’t
think it’s evil but they recognize the result of it is wasting time and money and
then we see a broken corrupt process of I list that I apologize. Okay.
Establishment. Okay. I got all that. I apologize for listening to that twice. And
we’ve got a hand up. Simon, yes.
Just that all of these reasons I witnessed as a state delegate at Utah Valley
University. When I was there, one of the things was on the Utah flag and the
entire congregation or it was majority almost unanimously voted down the new flag and
yet the next thing you know it was through some backdoor deal it just went through
and it doesn’t matter if it’s unpopular if they want it it’s going to happen that
that corruption it basically made everyone feel like why why are we voting if it’s
going to happen anyway why do we even try right yep and then you give up because
you don’t recognize what’s going on and had a mess with these guys yep thank you
so then the final comment that was at the bottom of this graphic. The couple of
people that they interviewed said that I gave five years of my life and got nearly
a thousand people to show up during the COVID years. Hundreds of people participated
online. In the end, Lincoln Fillmore was right. When on February 7th,
2022, he said, the legislature can do whatever it wants. We’re the sovereign power
in the state, we can pass what laws we choose to pass. So Lincoln Fillmore,
who’s sold and championed as a conservative, who I have exposed as a gun grabber,
admitted out loud, right? He says he tries to recover without him in the
constitutions, but he had said the quiet part out loud. So life short,
family matters, and maybe when more legislators start to see But they’re in the same
sinking boat as all Utahans. Then I’ll rejoin the fight again, but not yet. Okay.
So he’s identifying somebody that was, you know, saying the quiet part out loud that
we’ll do whatever we want. But then not understanding. This is why I look at,
I mean, just look at this. He thinks that these guys don’t know, right? Maybe when
more legislators start to see what they’re, that they’re in the same boat. They
don’t see themselves as the same boat. They see you as those two things I just
showed you in the very beginning. You’re not in the Epstein list. You’re not in our
class. And so you’re a loser. I don’t care about you.
You’re not in the same boat because you’re the rules we write don’t apply to you.
How do we get rid of the poor people? They’re trying to get rid of you. They’re
not ignorant. They’re not stupid. They’re trying to kill you. They’re trying to
enslave you. And so because they didn’t recognize these people and saw them as
ignorant and that they just needed to have their ox goreed enough. And then maybe,
you know, I’ll be able to get back in the fight because we’ll have some people in
the legislature that are willing to do the right thing no you go back to you know
2019 when every single member of the legislature voted to fund the UN coming to
Utah you had not one single member of the legislature yet some of them vocally
saying oh I hate what the governor’s doing but every single one I mean not every
not not a single one of them ever did anything, never, never censured them,
which is like the minimum that you could do, which is basically saying, you’re
naughty. They wouldn’t even do that. Nobody filed articles of impeachment. Nobody did
anything against these people. We’re seeing the same thing right now where, you know,
as we go through, you know, why isn’t the FBI putting any of these co -conspirators
in jail? Don’t, and acting as if they’re stupid, or, hey, we just need to get
enough Republicans in there next time and we’ll be able to fight this. Or we just
need enough Democrats in this and we’ll be able to get the DOJ to do the right
thing. This has been happening from administration to administration on every state
level, I mean, in every state, as well as the federal government level.
And so we can see how not understanding the conspiracy gets people to think that
there’s nothing that they can do and so they give up
and so this and as well as some of people that believe that there’s or that
understand that there’s a conspiracy they’ll give up because oh now it’s too big to
fight but this is kind of your average normie that sees the corruption or sees or
sees the conspiracy as mere corruption and says, oh man,
there’s just nothing that can be done. I’m going to give up and wait until more
people wake up
instead of actually doing the work to wake people up or finding out for themselves
that they’re asleep and need to be woken up themselves and then help others to wake
up.
So we look at, so right, campaigning, lobbying, rallies, lawsuits, all the things
that I regularly call out. These things are designed to chew you up and spit you
out. If you’re not going to be co -opted and can be brought up into that class of
state, so -called stakeholders, right, who want a seat at the table, then it’s
designed to ensure that you saw that your money was wasted you saw that the time
was wasted you saw that all the people gathering together in opposition to something
bad or in support of something good at the time was wasted and so you’re done it’s
designed to do that so but if you’re paying attention right it well anybody anybody
so this is designed so if you’re paying attention it’s easy to see just after a
couple of cycles that the above things, campaigning, lobbying, rallies, lawsuits, et
cetera, that they don’t work.
And but they, they’ll try to drag you along as much as possible. So they don’t,
they’re not like, they’re not trying to say the thing out loud like, oh, just go
give up. They’re just like, oh, man, if we just voted harder, we could have fixed
this. Oh, man, if we had just knocked just a few more doors, we could have gotten
this done. Oh, man, if we had just, and they’re always trying to string you along
as if there was just one just man you know for the last hundred years we just
can’t get anything done but if we just did a little bit more work and donate a
little bit more money and and did this and did that within this uh little frame um
we could have done something but if you’re actually paying attention you’re going to
be like well no that’s ridiculous why am i wasting my time i’m not going to do
this anymore and you don’t see any other option, you don’t see what other solutions
there could be, and so you give up.
That is what it is designed to do.
So it leads to the inevitable question that I’ll get, right? When I’m, I’ll bring
up these things that are going on and what doesn’t work? And so they’ll say, well,
then what can we do about it besides start a evolution. They’re always like,
because they always, they kind of recognize that we’re not going to vote our way
out of this, but they don’t want to actually doing certain things is off the table
for them. So they’re basically saying even, and I’m going to show you why I’m not
in favor of that specifically, but basically what they are saying, you translate it,
and they’re saying among the things that don’t work, What will work?
And so they’re pigeonholding, they’re pigeonholing themselves into the game that the
conspiracy has created and saying, okay, which one of these are sets of rules that
the conspiracy has written, do I have to follow to win?
And they’re not willing to actually get rid of the rules or ignore the rules the
conspiracy has set up
so these are the three choices that they see okay they’re gonna right vote harder
or vote even harder and so they’ll that’s kind of the this is one of the this is
the not giving up kind of mindset is what they think is not giving up i’m going
to vote harder i’m going to vote extra hard. Or just give up and live my life,
you know, go back to sleep and forget about all these things that are going on and
just spend time with my family and friends.
Or basically just, you know, raid the Capitol and light the building on fire and go
French Revolution and start guillotine people. And we’ll see what we can do.
Well, that option, obviously, compared to the middle option, right,
is going to be what they’re going to choose, right? To those ignorant of the
conspiracy or the immoral, they’re going to pick the easy road. They’re going to be
like, why am I going to waste my time working harder? And why am I going to risk
my life and my money and my freedom fighting a losing battle at the capital i’m
just going to go to sleep and just spend time with my family and and not worry
about these things anymore okay but this is right that’s a path that leads to
unimaginable horrors apathy and inaction is not accepted.
So am I saying that the only option is the third option? Okay. So is that the
only option, right? What happens if we do this? And this takes us back to the
book,
the righteous sword against tyranny and the three questions that it asks. And the
final question is, right, is it going to be helpful to kill a tyrant? Or is it
going, or in this framing is,
you know, is it going to be helpful to have a complete revolution where we throw
the bums out in the legislature or in Congress or in the presidency? But what
happens if we actually do that? Right now, with the understanding and the morality
of the vast majority of people in you know in in the population what’s going to
happen right well this is the current understanding that we get we get billboards
when Obama is in office that you know it would have been better if we still had
skull and bone Satanist George Bush in power or we have this type of a thing today
where we have which is very very common amongst conservatives is that Donald Trump
is the spiritual father of our country. We would be lost without his strong moral
and biblical leadership. This is a very, this mindset today,
right, is very similar to the mindset of, you know, when we have a Democrat in
office, do we miss the previous Republican? And so with that current understanding of
not, which is a, which is not understanding, that I understand that these people are
a part of, that these people are conspirators. They are part of the satanic
conspiracy that is in unison working together with people in all the parties,
academia, media, right, Hollywood, the news. They’re all working together to destroy
liberty and to enslave or murder us. And so if we don’t understand that conspiracy,
and we don’t understand morality, we don’t understand correct principles of liberty,
we have the mindset that we see in front of us right now. The result is going to
bring about another dictator. So this is a literal golden statue that they have at
the G20 summit. This is not, I didn’t just make this up. They literally have a
golden statue at the G20 summit of Donald Trump. And so whether,
you know, I’m not saying that because Donald Trump himself is a puppet. So they’re
not going to, they’re not going to have him be the permanent dictator. I don’t
think.
It’s worked out better for them to switch out. You know, they have consistency and
They have the stability like Epstein talked about with the trilateral commission by
controlling things from behind the scenes, making people think that there’s a change
when there isn’t. But let’s say we overthrew the G20 and the so -called powers that
be. Well, with our current understanding, most people would say, well,
at least
Well, you know, Trump is a good Christian. At least that is the mindset of the
average so -called conservative. And so if we were to overturn these people, we would
have the same people back in charge again. And so would a revolution today be a
good idea? I say, no, that is not a good idea. So am I saying that you should
give up as well because I’m saying all three of those today are bad ideas now
would i say any one of those are bad ideas in and of themselves no i think you
know when we have uh legitimate elections and we have legitimate people running and
we don’t have a conspiracy run media then you know elections are you know the
founding fathers what they set up is great when if we have you know if we don’t
have a conspiracy to face and we don’t have evil to fight then Sure, spending time
with her family. Well, I think we should spend time with their family even now
while we’re fighting the evil. But to completely give up. If there’s nothing to
fight, then sure, spend all the time in the world with your family.
And am I saying that a revolution is always bad? No, the founding fathers threw off
the King of England and formed a new government, a new set of governments. And so
those things in and of themselves are not bad, but when we do them at the wrong
time, then they are bad. And they make things worse. And so we have to understand
that. Mark, yes.
Yes, I just want to be sure everyone caught this. The statute is really quite
representative. Trump. Here he is acting like the golden cap, giving the revolution
salute and so and if you don’t know what it is there it is right rubbing our nose
at it or we’re the communist you know part of the new world order conspiracy yep
yep absolutely so
no of course I am not saying to give up otherwise I wouldn’t be here tonight I
find giving up to be an immoral activity and it’s something that is unacceptable to
anyone who loves their children and who love their God and so what is the real
revolution that we must have and that is we have to have unity through division and
I’m going to get in and I’ve talked about this but in the past it’s in our member
manual and some other videos that I’ve done before, but those that are of like mind
must separate themselves from those that want to have what we have.
And so we have to separate ourselves in that way. And then we have to have an
understanding, right? We have to have correct knowledge of true principles.
We have to have understanding of the conspiracy. You have to have understanding of
righteousness and of liberty. And we have to have morality ourselves.
Not just understanding of it, but we have to be immoral people. And we have to be
able to defend ourselves when those that we’ve separated from want to ensure that we
stay with them. As I lay out an invasion, right, when the Mormon people left the
United States the conspiracy did not accept that and they invaded them and did
things to force them back in and so we have to understand these things it goes
back to understanding and then defend ourselves and so that we are never reunified
with people that want to destroy us and so I’m going to talk about these things
more next week so I’m going to go in great detail in all four of these as the
real revolution that’s needed and so that we as a re -emphasis of what I’ve talked
about before of the things that must be done we are not to give up we are not to
be stuck in the things that give the conspiracy more power and we don’t just start
you know a revolution with the and thinking that everyone around us in our community
is going to then put in good people back in power. We don’t have the understanding.
We don’t have the morality. We don’t have the unity to be able to have that be
effective, even if we had the weapons to do so. None of those four things are in
a position right now. And so every effort that we invest in,
every minute that we use, every dime that we spend in the effort of liberty needs
to be spent in this, not in elections, not in propositions, not in ballot
initiatives, not in, you know, supporting our favorite candidate or supporting our
favorite lawsuit, but indeed for things. That’s where the resources of time and money
need to be used. The investment will be infinite just in infinite because the other
ones are designed to fail. And so your investment in those things will be zero. You
will lose every dime. But if you invest in these four things, you’ll at least have
a chance.
And so with that, we’ll spend the next, we’ve got 10 minutes for Q &A on this
topic. So Anybody has, I’ll go through the chat. Anybody has any questions? Raise
your hand.
Simon, yes.
You got on mute, Simon. I’m really intrigued by this unity through division point.
It’s like where Orson Spencer said, a like -minded people should band together by
dividing ourselves from people who don’t think the same way we do. We do have
unity. I love that concept.
Awesome, thanks. Mark. Yes, you kind of clarified this later on,
but when you’re talking about Fillmore’s quote, here it was saying that they don’t,
the people don’t understand the conspiracy, but They also don’t understand liberty.
They don’t understand tyranny. They don’t understand the law of the Constitution. So,
you know, all these things,
and ignorance or subversion, treason. But so throw the bums out.
You can’t throw the bums out if you don’t know who the bums are.
And, you know, right now the federal government, we at least 500 of the 37 elected
of the representatives, 536 of the 537s are bombs. And the only one that might not
be is Massey.
He’s important to say that, which is pretty atrocious, but yeah.
And stakeover, I remember that that if i may yes right this is a communistic term
if you hear it you should confront it the only people involved if it’s a litigation
is the defendant and the plaintiff and it over rights individual rights and these uh
new non -governmental agencies or whatever lobbyist groups they have no should have no
more power than any anybody else except for the two that are in there, they’re in
the trial. And, of course, it’s not just, it’s in the legislature. They have
stakeholders in the hearings. It’s in everywhere. So it’s absolutely violation of the
first principle of Americanism and the Declaration of Independence. We’re all created
equal. And in just hearing or proceeding, we’re all equal but it’s it’s falling the
one animal farm for all legal but some are more so than others yeah and so their
stakeholders saying we’re more equal than others and we should confront it every time
you hear it i’ve been confronting it for about 20 years now so it’s and i’m so
glad you brought that up thanks yeah
These are comments or questions.
Simon,
go ahead. Real quick, can you put up that last slide? I just wanted to look at it
if you had a second. Yeah, yeah. Let’s see, it’s wrong window.
That’s wrong. That’s not it. Stop sharing. Where to go?
There we
go.
There we go. Okay.
Yeah, go ahead, Mark. Yeah, continue my comment. So the person was saying, well,
they were telling us they’re going to do this or that, and they get in there and
they lie, and they switch your position on issues. That’s not what’s going on.
Very little that, I mean, as they are liars before they get in there they’re
supporting tyranny before they get in there the vast vast majority of elected
officials i see at the state and and federal level especially the federal level
there they were groomed beforehand they were put in there because they’re going to
carry out evil and if you knew if people knew how to bet them they wouldn’t be
voting for them from the beginning they keep saying these what we used to call them
for about 30 years now that way fake fever meaning Oh, they were good guys and
doing the right thing and saying the right thing before we sent them to Washington.
But once it got there, they were changed. Maybe people were bribing them, things
like that. Anybody that really understands tyranny, liberty, the Constitution,
the political system, the Constitution creates, and in other words, no Americanism and
the American system, not the subversity system or under now, know these people were
corrupt before they got there. And the betting’s a big issue.
They don’t know how to bet. So again, you can’t throw the bumps out if you don’t
know who the bumps are. You put the bumps there to begin with when they showed you
there with bumps. Right. And they’ll put on that very premise of this Potomac fever,
right, is this idea of supporting term limits as if that’s a solution.
So now we’re going to spend all this time and money trying to get a constitutional
amendment passed to in, to put in term limits that even if you got that in there,
that doesn’t even fix the issue because like you said, these guys were bad before
they even went in. You just believed them. They were liars and you believed them.
And once they got in there, like people even with these quotes, there There’s still
lots of people think, oh, yeah, Lincoln Fillmore is a great conservative. He’s a
constitutional. No, he’s a piece of garbage. And these people were garbage before
they were put in. And it’s almost like voting and the revolution. They’re like two
different versions of the same thing because if you don’t fix the core problem,
voting isn’t going to work. And if you don’t fix the core problem a revolution
doesn’t work and so we’re totally backwards when we’re thinking that this this is
the current right now solution it’s just not it won’t work uh simon
just looking at this last slide at what comes to mind is as i read the second
amendment of the constitution it talks about a well -regulated militia And well
-regulated means moral and educated and divisive,
if necessary, but well -regulated. It kind of reminds me of Patrick Henry.
He tried to start up or assist in the French Revolution, but he didn’t realize that
the people were not moral and that is vital to having winning your independence
again as being moral or that the conspiracy was the one behind the French
Revolution. Right.
Yes, Mark. You brought up term limits. I’d like to represent what history has told
us about term limits, how good they are ever since fdr we’ve had term limits for
the presidents of the united states haven’t we got a lot better presidents oh yeah
or california they’ve got term limits on every state elected official right california
is just the bashing of liberty right yes and that ties into something else we were
talking about the vote voting harder stronger i made point many time on kate show
the history for we had supposedly supposedly all this voter fraud was they people
were voting for the same subversive of the same tyrants before there’s all this
voter fraud so if you got rid of voter fraud what’s going to change we’re going to
keep voting for the same people in republic and the democrat of Marxists we just we
just outvoted the little the voter fraud that time and we were able to Just vote
so hard that we beat the voter fraud. Yeah. And a lot of people will say, well,
we’ve got to start with the elections. Once we get elections taken care of, things
are going to the right direction. No, they’re not going to right directions. Do you
think these satanic pedophile baby eaters are going to let you have a legitimate
election? You’re out of your mind.
Simon. Or we’ll just vote to make voter fraud illegal.
You should pass a law.
Let’s do both for that being illegal. That should change a lot.
Well, thank you all. Let’s go ahead and have our closing prayer. And then we’ll go
into open forum for those that want to hang out. Bobby, would you be willing to
give us the closing prayer?
Dear Father, we, thy servants, come before thee at the close of this meeting.
We thank you for the things that Ben has shared with us in this preparation for
tonight. We thank you for the cause that we’re engaged in. And for the public that
we’re trying to preserve, there are so many different questions that need answers,
yet most don’t have a voice at this time. Father,
we ask my blessings that that will give those things that we have concerns about a
voice and a time to be heard and that people will open their ears and their hearts
to hear these messages as our republic is suffering, as on the verge of collapse if
we don’t do the right things and do them in a manner that displeasing unto thee.
Father, we ask thy peace to be upon our hearts and souls, but thou will listen to
the concerns that we have. And here’s a deep feeling and emotions in our hearts and
souls as well. Father, we pray for thy will, always to be done and not ours,
as we are flawed. Father, we ask our blessings of peace and forgiveness for our
weaknesses and for strength to glorify that Holy Name and all things that we do.
And we pray for these things according to our love for thee in the sacred and holy
name of Jesus Christ. Amen.
Thank you.