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Father in heaven, we’re so grateful to gather together in the name of Jesus Christ and for the cause of liberty and the kingdom of God. We pray that that will edify us by thy spirit and empower us to help us win thy kingdom.
And that thou may subdue all nations so that we may be a part of that. Please help us to yield to the spirit and the thought word indeed, and to do all things our Father and our Savior would have us do.
And in the name of Jesus Christ, amen. – Amen. – Amen. – Thank you. Carmen, would you give us the minutes for July 1st, 2024? – Yes, Tree He’s a sighting minutes for Monday,
July 1st, 2024. The opening prayer was offered by Allen Arthur and the minutes were read by Carmen Turner. Ben reminded all the members about the August 3rd picnic over at Ben Wagon Park in Lehigh.
It starts at 6 p .m. and he would like RSVPs so that you could sign up for side dishes to bring.
Training was on the principles of declaring independence, understanding why, and why it was more important. 1770,
Charles Pratt was mentioned. He’s the first Earl of Camden. The government is using religion to implement the program.
And it would mark an end of liberty in America by bringing in Episcopalian preachers. Becky made a comment that was pulling kids away from parents to teach them different from what the parents did teach them.
Our member, Tom Jefferson, spoke up and talked about cultural monarchism. Ben said,
“Creatures don’t become communists. Communists become preachers.” Samantha commented on how preachers were heads of the militia,
that they would tear down the kingdom of God. We are trained to trust experts. We don’t value our own agency.
Fake religious leaders pretend piousness, but they’re only wolves in sheep’s clothing. Alan Arthur talked about the KKK and Ben said that they can’t do certain things without government intervention.
Intermixing is important in implementing tyranny. Government is colluding with churches and they claim power to dispense with moral rules.
They deliberately keep people in profound ignorance. He showed a video of Bedner, huh?
I don’t understand what that word is there for. And church was actually promoting government as Bedner as a member of the church. Mike had commented on the G2 summit igniting differences of faith.
Then talked about the fear of religious influence on the leaders in England, and they wrote letters to England.
And now we’ve got more, oh, today people are writing letters to Satanists. We’ve got more tyranny. We have looked our Utah owes no obedience to any other government.
We’re working to separate ourselves to be self -governing and not lawless. The Northern states set up government to benefit businesses,
and 13 states exercise sovereignty appointed governments, Articles and Confederation, 13 colonies were indeed free and sovereign states.
They had the right of state and the state to govern themselves. Each state with independent nation was the law of compact States recognized that people were being brainwashed,
but each state maintained sovereignty, the right and the duty to separate themselves from the government usurping their rights. Reed Miller commented that in 2020,
some people drew up a document. The government was not protecting our rights. They took it to the government and it didn’t do any good. The people had no power.
Ben commented about in 1776, the king went to war with the people. The founding fathers said different,
you are an invading force. Worst,
Alan Arthur said the word 1812 was a continuation of that and said that they made the declaration of independence illegal and null and void.
The final death blow was the war between the states. Now, it’s legal to do with the Founding Fathers set up, what the Founding Fathers did,
we are in a serious situation, we leave evil, we don’t fix it, but we’re celebrating no longer exist. Alan Arthur said there’s amendment that says we have to be one country.
Ben said that Congress forces every state to have that in their constitution and can be ignored by nullifying in. Micah said,
do it when they’re defenseless. Alan Arthur said that Porter Rockwell said, don’t miss. Micah said that we need to go after the enemy and their weakness,
and the closing prayer was offered by Samantha Hollister. – Okay, thank you, Carmen. Does anybody have any questions or comments?
– Just that statement by Tom Jefferson was actually by Elior. – Ah. So, sorry about that. Yeah.
Don’t we have a Thomas Jefferson as a member here? No. He’s been dead for a while. I mean, other people could have that name technically.
I’m not aware of any of them become members of the Tree of Liberty Society. I don’t know how excited I would I mean I my excitement would be grant would be great if that were to happen but I thought I saw last week yeah Elior was saying that he put that as his name because you can change your name on there and he was being funny and yeah zoom’s not asking for three forms of ID to change your screen name he
could literally put his name as God and it would let it it do it. It would be okay. And if you were to say God said this in the minutes, I’d have to correct you. Okay,
Eli, what is your last name again? Walker. Walker. Okay, I’m ready. Were you going to do a spiritual talk, Ben? Did I put that in the thing?
Yep. I didn’t assign that. I apologize. I will get better at that. But if anybody wants to go back, I would highly recommend going back to last week’s training and going through that if you missed it or just wanted some good refreshment on that stuff.
It’s good stuff. If I do say so myself. Okay, I’m ready. Okay. Again, just wanted to remind everyone for August 3rd in Lehigh,
Utah, we’re having our social. Again, it’s not there’s no presentation. It’s just a way to get together and and have camaraderie amongst other people of like mind will be barbecuing eating and kids having fun at the park and having games and all kinds of fun.
And so I hope as many of you that can make it will make it. We have people already RSVP’d from as far away as eastern Montana and northeastern Idaho.
So no, and then southern Utah as well, so. I think I know excuse me. Maybe those of you listening in afterwards from Japan, you know,
I might give you a little. But we’ll give you a week to decide. So if you if you do plan on making it,
I would have greatly appreciate you RSV peeing through text or email. And that way we know what kind of account we have and I can make assignments on what kind of stuff it’s kind of like it’ll be like a potluck and so I’ll make assignments.
So RSV peeing is greatly appreciated. Any questions? It’ll be the third Six p .m. It’ll be like a dinner games.
Okay, if you do any questions. Well, good somebody was somebody chime in Okay maybe not But I’d be I’d just love to see you all there But let’s go ahead and get to training tonight.
It is going to be, you know, when I put together a training, I’m not like, Oh, I need to just add stuff to make sure it fills up the full hour. And a lot of times I cut stuff out so that we don’t go too long.
But the the intent is generally is just to kind of like, how much do we need to just get the point across? We don’t need to be beating the dead horses and so tonight is one of those exceptions where um it’s it’s not gonna I know in advance unless unless you guys have a lot of you know a lot of comments which is always great I I um I expect tonight to be a little bit shorter than usual um but I think that uh
but the content is something that I felt was really important for us to understand understand the conspiracy and the more that we understand it and how what it fears,
right, this is the important part is what it fears, because if we understand what the conspiracy fears, then we will understand why the solutions that we talk about are the solutions that are important and why the other ones that are focused on in the last,
you know, 50 100 years are things that only help the conspiracy to maintain its power and so but please feel free if you got comments put them in the chat or please just let me know please interrupt not gonna offend me for interrupting so back to the less I hear my own voice the better Okay,
so we’re just gonna talk about the conspiracies dependency on believing you believing that they are legitimate. Okay as the more people that we get to Understand that the people in power are not legitimate the less power that the conspiracy is going to have and That is something that losing their illegitimacy is something that they are vehemently afraid of and Because if you understand that they’re illegitimate that they
are evil that they are you know One of the two definitions of tyrants whether they weren’t appointed by the people or God or that they govern tyrannically because they violate natural law or You know and that they’re Satanists and they’re doing all these horrible things and you’re going to be like,
uh, you, uh, you worship Satan at the Bohemian Grove, I’m not going to let you tell me how to run my business or how what to teach my kids. I’m not going to listen to you.
Their legitimacy is gone. And that is something that they are deeply, deeply afraid of. And so they, they, they do certain things to try and, um, maintain their legitimacy. And so it’s one of the things that we have to focus on.
And so one of those things is elections are key to maintaining the appearance of legitimacy. If everybody thinks that these guys were legitimately put there, that gives them a level of legitimacy.
And so along with elections, one of the guys I’m going to talk about is Nelson Mandela. A lot of people, the media likes to promote him as this oppressed freedom fighter,
but here he is with Fidel Castro, and he is a lifetime communist. He is not the hero that the billboards and the media want you to think he is.
In fact, he said that the cause of communism is the greatest cause in the history of mankind. Not the cause of Christ,
not bringing people to the Lord, not, you know, not becoming closer to the Lord, but no, the cause of communism is the greatest cause in the history of the world.
That tells you what an evil, horrible, Satanist this guy is. Hopefully this isn’t coming, that’s not too much of a shock. Man, the cause of communism is the greatest cause in the history.
Thank you. Go ahead. So he’s so he’s not just a common just like in the book Tragedy and Hope where they talk about how communists were and communism is is used by the conspiracy as a tool to further I’m not aware of who Richard Haas is he is and he was the head of the Council on Foreign Relations,
one of the lead groups in the conspiracy up until this year, or what no last July sorry. So just over a year just about a year ago, and here they are sitting together the head of the CFR and the leader in the Communist movement in South Africa,
sitting together, they are one in the same, they are working together for the same agenda. And when he was a part of moving in South Africa trying to,
they were putting together what was there, kind of like a bill of rights, what they were trying to get the government to do, what the powers of the government were going to be. And so to be able to gain legitimacy, they put out a questionnaire that was basically asking everybody,
what do you want government to be? What are the things that you think should be in this Bill of Rights? Or I can’t remember, what was the thing? What was the thing? I can’t remember the, what it was called. – Well,
the question wasn’t as concise as you’re saying. The question that they sent out, which they mailed out to like, all of South Africa was this letter that said– – Well,
I’ve got the, I’ve got from what what the questions that it asks. – Yeah, but it’s hard to say if you could make any government and do with it as you will, what would you have? – And then there was,
it was called a document, but there was a document that had a name. I think we’re gonna get that. – They called it their declaration of liberty or whatever. – Yeah. And so they put out this questionnaire because if you get the people putting their input,
now they feel like, “Oh, I was heard, I was involved. It gives an aura of legitimacy.” We saw this in the state of Utah with an organization called Envision Utah where they were doing massive ads.
– I think it was their charter on human rights or something. – Something like that. – They called it a charter of some kind. – So the Envision Utah puts out this questionnaire of, what’s the vision that you have for our future?
And it was like, and these had these different things where, you know, where they wanted growth, where they were gonna limit the population and limit land and put everybody in these stacking packs and three or four different variations of that.
And then there was the one that said, let people have freedom and it was like extinction. And so obviously was directing the input that they wanted, but it would give the appearance of support from the masses.
So some of the questions that they that these evil people asked was, How would you set about making South Africa a happy place for all the people who live in it?
How ambiguous? How would you set about making South Africa a happy place? Oh, I guess I doubled that. We call the people of South Africa black and white.
Let us speak together of freedom. Let the voices of all the people be heard and let the demands of all the people for the things that will make us free recorded so,
you know, we’re all together in this this and we all we need to be heard and Our voice needs to be recorded for everyone and not every all of our ancestors to know and Let the demands be gathered together in a great charter of freedom.
So the Charter of Freedom. Who could be against a charter of freedom where everybody gets to have input? And so what are some of the results of this so -called questionnaire where they put into their Charter of Freedom,
quote, “The mineral wealth beneath the soil, the banks and monopoly industry shall be transferred to the ownership of the people as a whole. This is our Charter of Freedom where we’re going to transfer all of the wealth of the land into the hands of the elite that run the government.
This is your Charter of Freedom that I’m sure everybody just wrote in. Probably 90 % said we need the government to control the minerals. Yeah, they did. They did have an event for,
– I don’t know if you go into this or you want me to. – Sure, go ahead, Micah. – So the way that they ran this, probably too close, sorry. So the way they ran this is they initially sent out this letter that they allegedly mailed to everyone in South Africa that said the things on the last slide.
And then what they did have was sometime later, they had a physical gathering Where people could come and and voice the things that they would have written in the letters or whatever but of course the they it was a closed event it was done outside,
but it had security and You could only be there if you were invited and of course the people were hand -picked people to show up and voiced all of the things that they wanted them to say for evil.
And it was about like 300 and something people that were invited to this thing. And then they called that the democratic way to do all this stuff.
And from that they go, “Aha, we have consent of the people. We have our Charter of Freedom for South Africa.” And And so,
that’s what it is. Basically, if you wrote a letter, I’m sure they just threw it in the garbage. And then they just pretended that everyone and their brother said all these things.
Thank you, Micah. So, another point in this so -called Charter of Freedom was this idea that education shall be free, compulsory,
universal, and equal for all children. So a national charter to say that every kid is gonna be forced to go to government school and that they were gonna be forced to go through the same government and doctrine nation as everyone else.
Everyone else is gonna be taught the same church lesson in believing the doctrine of the state every day of the week. And and so because they had this massive participation,
they had this illusion of legitimacy under, you know, everybody was involved. And we just, you know, created this thing based on what everybody had their input in.
And so you can see how participating in it led to the legitimacy of this satanic result so and then of course elections are key to maintaining of the appearance of legitimacy and so you have Nelson Mandela and the African National Congress wanting to put together an election and you have you have the normal process in different parties and Mandela’s African National Congress And And so but he wasn’t he wasn’t getting
involved and the Henry Kissinger comes to town Okay, thank you And so Henry Kissinger right we have this say the satanic globalist from America going to South Africa to strong arm the head of the IFP,
the Zulu tribe to participate in the election. And the king of the Zulus, after meeting with Henry Kissinger,
decides to allow their party to be on the ballot after all. And now, even though of course what happens afterwards, the Zulu land is stolen by the African National Congress,
and the Zulu are betrayed by not only their leaders, but by them thinking that participating in this election was going to be, you know, beneficial to them.
That statement is true, but like you said it there. So, so quickly. There was a whole another – Sure, there’s a lot more to it, but that’s kind of the just – That’s true. That’s true. I’m sorry.
I’m sorry. So yes, there’s a lot, a lot more to it, but I didn’t feel it was, but that’s the gist of it is they were betrayed and the the communists and the internationalists in power did whatever they wanted under the guise of legitimacy because,
hey, your party was on the ballot. Your candidates had the option of winning. You guys just, you know, nobody wanted what you guys had to offer. that the people have spoken and your land is now ours.
– Well, it would be more accurate to say that the Zulu royal family betrayed the Zulu people in that because they were part of the conspiracy in all this nonsense.
– The leadership of the party, right? – Yeah, yeah, the leadership. – And the people, of course. So the leadership of the Zulus make the deal with Henry Kissinger and they’re become, become, you know, they get coopted. And the people are thinking that their king is there to protect them and that they,
you know, that everything’s all on the up and up, but they were of course, you know, betrayed. And this this land compact was like 10 years after the ANC gained control of the government.
So it’s not always immediate, something that wasn’t immediate. And that’s the same thing with with all Dictatorships is it takes a while, but that’s the ultimate result. But that issue is very sticky I spent like 30 hours or 20 hours reading stuff trying to find the truth of it It was very very difficult find real information about it so here’s just one example of how elections are are designed to give a an aura of
legitimacy to the read to the actions of government and the And those in power are very much afraid of the idea of losing legitimacy.
You have here the Supreme Court Justice, Chief Justice John Roberts speaking to a group of last year who said simply because people disagree with opinions is not a basis for questioning the legitimacy of the court.
And so, you know, he is very afraid of the court, so -called losing legitimacy, because then of course, if the court’s not legitimate, then if they say that you are forced to marry sodomites,
but you’re like, no, you don’t have the authority to do that, you’re ruling or your opinion is not legitimate, we’re not going to obey it, that is something that they’re very much afraid of.
And that’s something that, you Maybe if your county had a legitimate recorder, the county clerk, the person in charge of marriage licenses in that county was legitimate and recognized the power of the Supreme Court,
they would ignore the Supreme Court’s ruling on that, for example, on the Sodomite marriages. And they would just refuse to issue licenses to Sodomites because the court has no authority to do so.
And so they are very much afraid of themselves losing legitimacy. And so it’s important for anybody in government that has the authority and the ability to de -legitimize court rulings,
they should be doing so. Another example of their fear of losing legitimacy. We have CNN doing an article last year,
says a group of political assassins is quietly threatening American democracy a new book sets. So assassins, political assassins, so they’re giving this, of course,
aura of there’s people out there murdering elected And, and it’s a, of course, it’s a threat to democracy and just kind of focusing on the key quote here says that’s what we’re seeing with political leaders who say a person is a threat to democracy.
They won’t recognize elections and that’s unacceptable. So when a political leader says you’re a threat to democracy, it’s because you’re not recognizing the legitimacy of an election.
And that’s, you’re, you’re not recognizing the election is completely and totally unacceptable. You’re an assassin if you don’t recognize the legitimacy of an election.
They’re equating your questioning of the election to killing someone. Another article out in the Brookings Institute,
you see on the right how governments, Of course, they are trying to make you believe subliminally that the elections are safe and effective by calling it,
you know, the safe vote. And we have this, the title of the article, misinformation is eroding the public’s confidence in democracy. So of course,
if you put out information that shows that an election was illegitimate, You’re putting out in misinformation. They don’t they don’t put out any anything any facts to debunk it.
They just call it misinformation and Say that you’re threatening democracy to do so The article goes on to say this is one of the drivers of decreased confidence in the political system has been the explosion of misinformation deliberately aimed at disrupting the democratic process.
This confuses and overwhelms voters. So you’re too stupid to be able to weed through the facts. And so, you know, these people out there that are purposely lying to you are trying to confuse you.
Throughout the 2020 election cycle, Russia’s cyber efforts and online actors were able to influence public perceptions and sought to amplify mistrust in the electoral process by denigrating mail -in voting,
highlighting alleged irregularities, and accusing the Democratic Party of engaging in voter fraud, the big lie. So instead of debunking and showing why these things are lies,
they just state them as facts and that you debunking the idea of a safe election is misinformation and that, of course, you’re probably working for Russian,
you know, Russian operatives if you’re spreading this information. And, right, and denigrating mail -in voting, that’s, that’s,
we have in, again, going back to the headquarters here in Utah, where our own Lieutenant Governor, she’s on the ballot, but she’s in charge of the election.
And if anybody challenges the election, she’s in charge of accepting the challenge or rejecting the challenge. Like, how is that legitimate?
– She doesn’t even acknowledge that. She just says, oh, the courts. – The courts have ruled. – The courts have decided whether you can accept, whether you can challenge it. – And she’s put out, in the state of Utah,
put out findings to all of the state clerks again and then also denying unilaterally by herself proof,
right? So you have people out there trying to get verify signatures because that’s one of the ways to get on the ballot is to collect signatures.
But we have no way of verifying if those signatures are legitimate, if they’re real people, if they’re registered to vote, if they’re registered to vote in the state of Utah, there’s no, they’re saying you can’t look at this list of people that signed this piece of paper that allowed a candidate to get on the ballot.
And so there’s no way to even know if that person on the ballot is even legitimately on the ballot. And So of course, right, so we’re questioning the legitimacy of the election.
So therefore we’re Russian misinformation bots. The 2022 primary elections included several candidates running for offices at this local state and federal levels are perpetuating the dangerous myth.
So again, going back to the political assassins, you’re dangerous, you are, you are violent. So the dangerous myth that the 2020 election was stolen from former President Trump and was rampant with voter fraud.
And so of course they want to lump it in. So if you don’t like Trump then you have to accept that the election was legitimate. You can’t recognize that Trump acted unconstitutionally and elections are illegitimate.
They’re trying this false left -right paradigm even with questioning the legitimacy of the election. And so that this is a Democrat versus Republican. The persistent retelling of the big lie,
which is, again, they label anything questioning the election as a lie, continues to undermine confidence in the voting process and appears to be suppressing voter turnout.
So now they’re saying that by telling the truth about the elections, You’re suppressing, you’re blocking people from voting. You are dangerous, you are violent, and you’re engaged in stopping people from engaging in the process.
And then it gets into what is the solution for this? Oh, I’m sorry, not yet, sorry. The severity of the problem was on full display in New Mexico where the Secretary of State sued a county commission who unanimously voted to not certify results from the state’s primary election due to vague and unsubstantiated concerns.
They don’t give you a link to see what their vague concerns were or if they actually were vague or if they actually were unsubstantiated. They’re just telling you that. About the voting machines used to tabulate votes.
Although the New Mexico Supreme Court stepped in to move the certification process forward with widespread media coverage. Okay, so again,
a county commissioners, right? You have a body of county commissioners who unanimously, you know, said, hey, we are not gonna certify this because we have enough data that says that this,
there’s, we can’t certify it. You know how hard that is to get? It’s the idea that a group of elected officials acted to undermine an election based on vague and unsubstantiated concerns,
they themselves, the elected officials, is almost none. And then, of course, to support their legitimacy, that the election was legitimate,
the Supreme Court had to step in and say no, we’re forcing you to certify the election results. That just smacks, they’re just admitting that they have no legitimacy and that they have to force the issue.
It also shows the illegitimacy of the courts and that the courts are actually just enforcers of the conspiracies agenda. Did the court just step in out of nowhere?
Or did somebody take them to court over there? – So the secretary of state sued the county commission. So the Supreme Court steps in and says, commissioners, you’re out of line. We’re certifying the election.
– It’s like totally bizarre, ’cause usually it always goes to like lower courts and stuff first, and that process– So I had to go to the state supreme court.
Yeah, that process takes like years to even get to a state supreme court I’m certainly have an emergency injunction. Yeah Just the way it was. I can’t imagine that they did something in and more than a week you know like this and just like That just goes I think that just goes to show the insane desperation of That maneuver that they did Answer your question earlier.
Yeah, I just wish those commissioners would have stood their ground I know it’s I know it’s nerve -wracking to do something like that, but yeah, what have been cool? Yeah, totally. And so of course,
what is the Brookings Institute? They’re the ones that wrote the report on Envision Utah and how they’re the example for the rest of the country to install Agenda 2030.
What is their solution to this? Potential solutions to this growing challenge to democracy. Daryl West, vice president and director of governance studies at Brookings argues though us,
right? We argue that the news media has a major role to play in combating fake news. So the corporate council and formulations, controlled media is gonna combat this fake news and sophisticated disinformation campaigns.
West argues that the government should invest in media literacy so that voters can identify false information and stop its spread. And most counties and cities and actually states across the country have set up websites where they’re like,
you know, stop the rumor before it starts. And so that, you know, these are the implementing these Brookings Institute programs where the government gets to tell you what the truth is and isn’t.
And, you know, where in history has, you know, the government done anything to promote the truth, anything but their own line. I mean, – It’s so like Satanic cryptic.
– So invest meaning steal from the people to lie to the people. – But media literacy? Like what is that? I wanna know exactly what he means by that.
What does he mean by investing in media literacy? – Pay the media to run stories that the city or the government writes. – I guess,
I don’t know among other things. I’m sure I think it would be worse than that I think it would be like introduce some social studies program in high school that started before stop it before it starts Yeah, this says you have to believe whatever Like that video I showed last week of the teacher tell it’s right here in the history book,
it’s true Was it two weeks ago, okay So any any any questions thoughts comments or I move on to the next okay,
oh Did somebody else are you gonna say something? Well, I was just gonna say it really sounds like There needs to be some people burned in effigy and let them know that there’s a movement coming that is going to start holding the accountable ones accountable.
There’s got to be someone putting more pressure on them. That’s a good action to do. Burning in effigy is an example of the founding fathers set. Yeah, but dang,
I hate to burn straw man because they’re so hard to put together Maybe we should 3d print some some effigies You know,
I got a whole field full of paper you right now we could do it in day we could pull 20 of them He’s getting expensive Yeah,
it’s free. I’m the one who cut it. Oh, there you go. Okay, this guy’s just burnt like like $3 ,500 So another article came out says loss of Supreme Court legitimacy can lead to political violence So if you think that the Supreme Court has overstepped their legitimate bounds as set forth in the Constitution You know,
that’s gonna lead to violence, eroding legitimacy means that government officials and ordinary people become increasingly unlikely to accept public policies with which they disagree.
So again, this is something that they try to do is they mold, they mold the argument to be like, you’re just disagreeing with them. But they were elected and they, you know, the courts are there,
they’re appointed, And you know there’s options to remove them if they’re doing something wrong And so if they’re there they’re there they’re there legitimately and you’re just disagreeing with them You’re just it’s like it’s like trying comparing it to an argument of do you like Rocky Road or do you like cherry jubilee ice cream and It’s as opposed to these guys are evil tyrants that are oppressing the people.
They want to make it, oh you just disagree. Legitimacy leads to acceptance. In contrast, when people believe in the legitimacy of their governing institutions,
they are more likely to accept, respect, and abide by the rules the government, including the courts, ask them to live under, even when the stakes are high,
and the consequences are far -reaching. I love that, including the courts jam. Including – Including the courts. – I just wanna make the court so high. – So, you know, if the legislature of Congress does something,
then it’s automatically, we gotta be legitimate. Yeah, Becky, we gotta disagree better. It’s just a disagreement, guys. No, these guys are evil tyrants that should be exposed as such.
And so we can see that they are very afraid of exposing their illegitimacy and they want to make sure that everyone treats them as legitimate because if they’re legitimate then we have to accept whatever whatever they do they passed a law that law is now automatically legal especially since the courts upheld it and so here is a study but I think was the New York this is the New York Post political scientists to study
populist rhetoric as a threat to democracy. Okay? In recent years, increasing numbers of politicians across democracies have adopted populist rhetoric.
Now, they keep on using the word democracy and democracies, or a republic of republics. So, of course, you know, we’re not a democracy, but we’re not supposed to be at least. We’re a tyrannical oligarchy right now,
but alone and not a democracy. Have adopted populist rhetoric criticizing the political elite and questioning the legitimacy of democratic institutions.
That statement is self -defeating. Because if it was populist rhetoric, then it couldn’t possibly be democratic if it was against the populist (laughing) Right?
‘Cause if it’s popular, then the democracy, democracy is just what’s popular. So what they’re trying, go ahead. – I was just gonna say, I think, and I know you know,
I’m just saying, it’s funny how they, when they say populist, they’ve tried to link that with like quote, far right ideology, which is even, that’s not even, that’s a false.
– Whatever that even Yeah, well, it means nothing. So it’s there. I do their terms their buzzphrases. They take me off man. It’s just so stupid, you know Yep It’s funny how much they’re attacking the word populist recently again going back to utah um governor uh,
or tyrant cox Just came out recently of of of saying. Oh these people that are challenging the election. They’re not conservative. They’re they’re populist and so it’s they’re making populist a bad word and so I wanted to look up what is even like so before they’re able to memory hold the definition of populist yeah I wanted to look up – Oh,
I think it’s populist. – Poppy, it’s a member of the Nazi party. (laughing) No, so– – I’m with them. – This is the Webster’s Dictionary online, their website.
A member of a political party claiming to represent common people. A member of a US political party formed primarily to represent agrarian interest and to advocate the free coinage of silver and government control of role of monopolies.
The second definition is a believer in the rights, wisdom, and virtues of the common people. So they’re being critical.
They’re saying that these are right -wingers and that they’re not good people. This is the enemy right here. The people representing – Common people and rights are bad.
– And that’s what was already brought up. That’s like synonymous with democracy in some ways. So it’s just stupid. The whole thing’s so dumb. – They’re saying that the masses are evil and that we need to stop them.
– And we need to stop criticizing the political elite. – Elite. (laughing) – This is just such a wild, like I just wanna under the I just want to go into like the most I want to go to sugar house with this quote and just walk up to like a like a like a gay couple and ask them what they think of this statement like do you you know and I just want to see do they buy it because it’s just so outrageous to me yeah
the common people are just rabble but I just I want to know what the worst person of society who’s not a satanist, who’s not in power, so the second worst person in society I want to know what they think because if they if they think this statement is absurd then then that means I’m right I don’t know what that means.
It’s just it’s crazy. So the article goes on and says responding to concerns over the rise of populism, the rise of representation of the common folk. – I mean,
it’s claiming to represent the common people. – And it’s potential threat to global democratic stability. (all laughing) – This is stupid. – These three guys will produce a new massive data set capturing the extent of populism in communications by political elites.
So we’ve got to protect the global, you know, the political elites. But they’re just talking about taking what their own friends are saying about populism.
Yes. We’re going to do a report on what we’re saying about populism and release it and how dangerous populism is because we said it’s dangerous. Well, no, they’re going to take people like like Lyman and they’re going to say,
look what he’s saying, who’s part of the club. No, communications communications by political elites. So your Cox’s, your on the state level, your Mitt Romney’s on the national level, not the guys pretending to be populist.
These are the elites making statements against those claiming to be populists. So they’re accusing Lyman of being a populist. – Yeah. – And so this is the elites that are the anti -populist that they’re going to be gathering data from.
So they’re gonna be saying, what does Mitt Romney say about these ding populists and how dangerous they are. – Oh, okay. Why? (laughs) What’s the point? That doesn’t even help them.
Why would they do that? – Because it produces propaganda about how dangerous populists are. Because they say that they’re dangerous and so therefore they’re dangerous. – But that’s just like the same thing over and over.
– Yes. – That’s all they ever do. – That’s all they ever do. – That’s all they ever do, my bad. My bad. No, it makes sense now. It’s It’s still stupid, but the people buy into it because they’re like, oh, this mainstream Politicians said that populists are dangerous.
Yeah, but nobody likes Bob. Yeah. Yeah, well, you know Hardly anyone likes Robin like everyone hates him now. Don’t he still want was just just just that you know Just the one the circles were around you you talked to the average Joe on the street and they think he’s He saved the Olympics It’s it’s only the people that are the activists within,
you know, Republican Party and Constitution Party It’s coming back in 2032 aren’t you excited?
Is it? Yeah Yeah Yeah Just so you know,
I’m leaving out a bunch of this stuff because everybody’s talking so fast I can’t get it down as long as you just get the gist of it. You’re fine Just of what the content so We brought up some things that are again Utah specific and I want to play so KSL radio to interviewed Todd Wyler.
So I’ve got these, Todd Wyler is a state legislator as a senator and he’s a member of what’s called the Buckshot Caucus. So this, Jeremy Roberts is the founder of it. This is him bragging about being a,
the behind the scenes controller of the politics in the state. This is their official logo. And so, I think that’s a,
Right, I got the sign of the Illuminati. Yeah. So the, the sign of the Illuminati is the Buckshot Caucus. Todd Wilder is a member of the Buckshot Caucus founded by Jeremy Roberts.
And, and he was on KSL. KSL, of course, wanted to interview him to talk about the challenge to the 2024 Republican primary for governor.
And So I want to play a clip from that interview. And I also was on a Zoom call on Monday evening where he answered a question and said that he believes that the voter machines,
you know, if you vote in person, that they can change your vote after you cast your vote. But this is the election conspiracy stuff that we’ve all been hearing about for the last four years. It’s the 2020 election.
And number one, I don’t believe it. I think I think our independently elected candidates, 28 out of the 29, by the way, are Republicans. I don’t think they’re throwing the elections. I don’t think they’re committing felonies to get their preferred candidates.
And number two, there’s just no evidence of this other than conspiracy theories. And number three, having worked with Soliman and liked him in the legislature, I’m just so disappointed that someone of his caliber and of his stature would make these baseless allegations and just try to undermine the trust of the Utah voters in our election systems and just try to undermine the trust of the Utah voters in our election
systems and just try to undermine the trust of the Utah voters in our election systems. So they are very, very afraid of undermining the trust in the aka the legitimacy of their power.
And so anything that questions that or puts that into question is something that they have to quell. And so he calls it a conspiracy theory saying that it’s baseless. There’s no evidence where they’re not even willing to release the people,
the signatures of people that allows the current governor to be on the ballot. So this, that on its by itself should cause any thinking person to question the legitimacy of the election because if he doesn’t even qualify to be on there and there’s no proof of it.
That’s one of the things that government has to do is to prove what they’ve done is legitimate. And so they are very much afraid of people waking up to the illegitimate actions or the existence of these people of power.
What was that Bobby? It’s Alan. It sounds like we’ve got a caucus talker see a government by the least suitable or competent citizens of a state The danger is that this will reduce us to a caucus talker see sounds like we’re right in the middle of one These people feel like they can make rules up to protect themselves It’s like going to court here in Utah The biggest criminal – The biggest criminal in the court is
the damn judge and the district attorney. – Absolutely. Well, there’s no separation. The courts and the legislature and the executive branch are all controlled by the same group of people.
– Doctor’s Doctorcy? I After listening to this program tonight, it just makes me feel like there’s no hope for us except to pick up weapons to or to do a Epigee burning or something to get get them to scatter it just doesn’t sound like It’s not – Legitimate playing field.
– Well, that’s my, and that’s, that’s what I’ve been talking about for so long. It’s not legitimate. And so for us to treat it as legitimate, gives it legitimacy, and we have to stop doing that because it’s not.
And so, you know, there are things that, and again, I don’t want to get into the attitude of giving up. That’s not my point. If I have a car and the engine blew up and it’s beyond repair,
I didn’t give up. I just realized I have to do something that actually will get me something that will work. And giving the conspiracy legitimacy doesn’t work.
We have to stop using something that doesn’t work and refuse to beat. As we can see with everything that we’ve covered tonight they fear of exposure reveals their weak Achilles Hill Right.
That is something that they are deathly afraid of and so just kind of getting into maybe a little bit what we’re Maybe we we we get tempted to do is to think that they’re unbeatable and It reminds me of this clip from Braveheart.
I want to I’m gonna I’m gonna play oops I So,
you know, not a fair comparison of good guy to bad guy, but too often people on our side believe that the conspiracy is like this,
it’s bigger than life, that they can just shoot bolts of lightning, that they’re untouchable, and that they’re all powerful, and that there’s nothing we can do about it. But if that was true,
they wouldn’t be so afraid of losing legitimacy. The conspiracy is not invincible. They are beatable, and we just have to stop giving them legitimacy. That’s what they crave that’s what they are afraid of losing and we have to understand that It’s okay.
We’re a threat to democracy democracy is evil and I am proud to be a threat to democracy What you know, I we need to we need to do more of being threats to this system That is completely illegitimate and make more people Recognize and understand the illegitimacy of of the system that pretends to rule over us.
We have to destroy their legitimacy. And we do that by helping people understand it by getting them books like Invasion one and two. We have the audio version out there.
We have videos that expose them and, you know, members encouraging them to become members so that we can go through training like we’re going through tonight. These are the things that they’re afraid of. That’s why they ban it from Amazon.
That’s why they block it from, you know, they have the shadow banning. They don’t allow us to get on different platforms and to put our word out to more people because it destroys their legitimacy and it is something that they are deathly afraid of.
They cannot lose their perceived legitimacy with a certain number of the percentage of the population. And so that is the first part of the solution. Before we get to the things that Alan’s talking about this is the groundwork because we get into that stuff that you know that I am tempted to get into as well you know first off it just gets replaced with you know the same people that are treating the people in power
as legitimate they what kind of solutions are they going to provide what kind of people are they going to want to put above them after these guys are out they’re They’re just gonna replace them with the next guy that says all the right things because they have no foundation of basic understanding of fundamentals,
of the fundamentals of the conspiracy, of the fundamentals of liberty. And so they’re just going to do the same exact thing that has put us in the position we are today. So we have to do the hard work of laying the foundation of building the understanding in more individuals that can then take these more in -depth steps.
We have to just, right now, it’s we’re in exposure time, expose, expose, expose, as redundant as that sounds, as maybe hard work that that sounds, or as something that,
oh, that can’t work sounds, that’s the opposite. Otherwise they would not be so afraid of it. And so we have to do what they’re afraid of. And one of the things that they’re afraid of is being exposed and losing their legitimacy.
And so that’s what I’m asking us all to do is to make them afraid of us. And so that we can have liberty again. And that first step is exposure. And so,
wow, we filled up, I’m surprised that we, I said we weren’t gonna fill the whole time and we did, we’re over time. So we can talk about it more. Go ahead. Sorry. What was that? I got a quick question for you.
What you’ve done is Paul Cousins or Cousins or whatever the hell he calls his name with him challenging the election and holding everything up in the court. I think I know what your answer is,
but I’ve been seeing a lot of all the social media is just raving about how this guy who is remember the kind of commissioner. Yep.
Yeah, all these things and all these evil groups, why he is doing this. I think I understand, but I want to know your take on this so we can all be up on the same page.
So Paul Cousins is a county commissioner for everybody in Iron County. And he is, you know, going along with the narrative of,
you know, we need to question the results of the election. And but what is his solution? What’s he what’s he doing? What’s he saying to do? Where is he? Where is he putting the legitimacy?
He’s going to what? Correct me, Bobby, it’s he’s going to the courts, right? He’s suing. He’s doing that. He’s he’s filing a lawsuit. He’s filing a lawsuit.
And everything that – Go ahead, sorry, Bobby. How did you mean to? – And he’s throwing it. He’s also got a temporary injunction against the election. So, no county can certify the results right now.
So, he’s got that sitting on there. And to me, it’s a distraction and a solid tactic to legitimize the illegitimacy of everything.
And he’s putting a the enemy’s court, as far as I can. – Well, he’s saying that whatever the courts decide is legitimate. – Exactly. – And so he’s pretending to be anti -establishment while giving the establishment the power to make the final decision.
– Yeah, he’s on the inside of everything. – Yeah. – He’s as much a part of it as Mr. Kayu is. – Absolutely. When I was in Escalant,
they’d have meetings at Escalant, and they would present what they wanted to do, would say, “Well, why did you have a town meeting then?
“If you’ve already decided, why did you have us come in?” And they’d say, “Well, we’ve got all this done. “Everything’s done. “We’re following orders from the state.” I didn’t know what to say to them.
After listening to your program tonight, I should have said, for you being a representative of the town, which you’re not, you’re representing somebody at the state. We shouldn’t have ever had you in here.
We need to have you kicked out now and have someone else put in. But they make it sound like it’s out of their hands, that it’s fixed, it’s settled.
And, you know, I hate to defend this guy that Bobby’s talking about, but you get so frustrated.
You don’t think straight. And so you go back fighting it in the courts, thinking you’re going to get justice there. Which will never happen.
Which will never happen. But now we now we need another hat as that t -shirt that you showed just a minute ago We need that but under democracy.
We need to have a Monarchy and parentheses under democracy Alligarchy alligarchy that we need to make sure people understand when they say democracy.
They don’t mean democracy. They mean all the purposes. Yeah. No, I talked to that they’re following the exact pattern that I’m that I’ve been explaining is what a conspirator does to maintain power and Paul Cousins is just as involved in this all on the state level as anybody else.
His son has been compromised a big you know, he was a a volunteer, he was a leader in the Republican Party down there in Iron County and got a disgrace for a little while because he got caught with a soliciting a prostitute.
And I don’t you know, my opinion is it probably didn’t fall too far from the tree and with the power that Paul has. And so just they’re they’re just following the same exact program that I that I and legitimizes and gives more power to the conspiracy,
’cause now he’s taken to the court. He’s saying that whatever the court decides is legitimate. – Yeah, that the courts are legal and that they are the final say in everything,
which is absolutely false. – And that if they say that they don’t have to prove that Cox even got on the ballot, let alone the election being they’re going to rule that Cox doesn’t have to prove that he was on the ballot legitimately.
They are separating themselves even further away from the aura of legitimacy that they are even protecting themselves from being proven to be legitimately on the ballot,
let alone that the elections are legitimate. So that’s my two cents on that situation. We’ve got to stop being fooled by this stuff. We’re emotionally driven and we’ve got to stop getting, you know,
being controlled by our emotions and just get back and think about these things from a, you know, a principled logical standpoint. So let’s go ahead and close up for tonight.
And we’ll close up. Okay. I want to say one more thing. Okay. When you come out with these new t -shirts, come out the same time with a hat. Okay. We’ll do hats and shirts at the same time.
Yeah. As old geezers don’t wear t -shirts, but we’re more than willing. What about a beard tie?
Stop. So let’s have closing prayer, and then we can do open forum. We can talk more about this stuff or anything else you guys want to. But Alan, would you say the closing prayer for us? Yeah, I think,
I think Micah insulted me that something about a beard tie. Tell him I’ll get even with it. That was a product idea. Oh, hi. Father in heaven,
we’re thankful that we had the opportunity to meet tonight. We’re thankful that we had words of wisdom and the spirit that’ll help us to magnify the words that we’ve used that we can stop these tyrannical evil people that are our state.
We ask for thy guidance and for extra help in helping us implement these solutions. In the name of thy Son Jesus Christ. Amen.