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Member Training – Talking “Conspiracy”
By Ben McClintock, Tuesday, 14 Oct 2025.
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Member training from October 13th 2025.
In this week’s training, we focused on reclaiming the language of truth from the grip of propaganda. Too many today shy away from words like conspiracy or parrot the term conspiracy theory—a phrase the CIA deliberately weaponized to discredit truth-seekers. But a conspiracy is not a myth; it’s a legal, factual reality—an agreement between two or more people to commit unlawful acts in secret. Throughout history, leaders from George Washington to John Jay recognized and fought against conspiracies, yet modern society has been conditioned to mock those who do the same. Tonight, we traced how that manipulation took hold, exposed the individuals and networks openly admitting their designs for global control, and reaffirmed why our duty is not just to know these facts but to act upon them. Our goal remains clear: to expose and destroy the satanic conspiracy undermining freedom, to speak plainly using the correct terms, and to build an effective, principled resistance grounded in verified fact—not in theory.
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enlightened that we may comprehend and be able to begin to apply these things into
our lives and strive to be found worthy to be useful unto the our father please
watch over protect Ben and his family in each one that is seeking to do thy will
and to build up thy kingdom we ask for these things in the name of thy son,
Jesus Christ. Amen.
So let’s talk conspiracy talk. A lot of times because of the way that the
conspiracy has framed things, we either overcompensate and we say,
oh, you know, we either poo -pooh, not poo -poo, we try to avoid certain words or
we say things in the way that the conspiracy wants us to. And so I want to talk
to us. I want to talk to the group tonight about that. But of course, as always,
I’m hoping that every week we’ve done something in addition to training to see what
we’ve done to be able to increase your knowledge this week. We want to make sure
that we’re not a part of the reason why we’re perishing as a people and to be
able to be a good influence and overcoming the ignorance of the masses and reminding
us of the purpose of what we’re doing here tonight is to build understanding and
adherence to the principles that have built free nations to expose the satanic
conspiracy and then to act on it, right? Build an effective resistance to that
conspiracy. Doesn’t it goes any good to know about these things if we’re not going
to act upon them.
So I want to talk about some terms tonight these are some words that of course
that we use a lot we are not afraid to call things what they are that we’re
dealing with a conspiracy that then the word fact the word theory conspiracy theory
and conspiracy fact so it’s distinguished between those things what’s the history
behind those things the definitions and so that we can accurately and use those
terms as well as be effective in overcoming the false use of those terms.
Now, conspiracy theory as a term, a lot of people think that the phrase conspiracy
theory was invented by the CIA as a way to be able to discredit people that expose
the conspiracy. But the first time that we can find the usage of the phrase
conspiracy theory is actually back in 1863, New York Times letter discussing a
conspiracy theory that claimed British aristocrats were trying to weaken the U .S.
during the Civil War, okay? So that’s, that’s, when we go back to,
that’s when that the first time that phrase was actually used, but it was not a
pejorative term. It was not something that was used as an insult. It was just used
in a factual way. It was a theory involving a conspiracy, okay?
So we’re going to get into those terms and what the difference is and all that
kind of of as we go through training tonight. But it was the CIA that said we’re
going to weaponize the phrase conspiracy theory. So the until the 1960s conspiracy
theory was just the same as any other theory out there was some, you know, and
we’ll get into that what that means. But it was the 1960s when we see the CIA,
They weaponized it as a pejorative or an insult to discredit anyone questioning the
official line. So they wanted to use the word conspiracy theory to make sure that,
you know, and equate it with crazy people and with, you know, wacky things.
So that way, in the minds of the people, they would, anytime anybody was exposing
corruption, they would just say, oh, that’s a conspiracy theory.
you know, all throughout history where people say there are theories and that there
are conspiracies and that’s just the way it was, all of the sudden now,
what is this now, 50, 60 something years ago, it starts the transfer,
the switch to a pejorative term and to something to say, oh, I’m not a conspiracy
theorist, but, and so they want to make sure that this is in our zeitgeist and
that we have this in our mindset so that we don’t call things what they are so
that we don’t become discredited for saying what it is. Okay. So what is a
conspiracy? Conspiracy it derives from the Latin word conspirear, which literally means
to breathe together. Okay. Conspiracy, this is, we’re going to the Cornell Law
School, the legal word. This is not just this. There is actual legal,
there is code in law talking about conspiracy. It says that the conspiracy is an
agreement between two or more people to commit an illegal act, along with an intent
to achieve the agreement’s goal. Most jurisdictions also require an overt act toward
furthering the agreement. An overt act is a statutory requirement, not a
constitutional one. Okay. Conspiracy generally carries a penalty on its own. In
addition, conspiracies allow for derivative liability where conspirators can also be
punished for the illegal acts carried out by other members. So a conspiracy is
something that is real. It is something that is not only real, but it’s illegal,
right? If it’s, if you’re, two or more people are gathering together to plan a
secret criminal act, they are conspirators in pursuit of establishing and giving the
goals of the conspiracy come to fruition. Okay.
So people have not been afraid to call the conspiracy over time we have in the
1800s.
Go back to the 1700s. You have the first Supreme Court Justice of the United
States, John Jay, being the head of a committee to or a commission for detecting
and defeating conspiracies in the state of New York. So not only did they believe
in conspiracy, but they formed a committee to detect them and then to defeat them.
That is what we do. We detect them and we worked to defeat them. And so we have
serious people in serious positions that recognize and identified them for what they
were and organized to do something about it. George Washington himself in a letter
to a pastor says there is nobody that is more fully satisfied to the fact that the
doctrines of the Illuminati have spread in the United States. No question about it.
It’s a fact.
Okay. Now we go to the word fact and it is something that has actual existence and
actual occurrence, a piece of information presented as having objective reality,
the quality of being actual. Okay.
So that is a fact. So when I said conspiracy fact, it is a fact that people
gathered together in secret to do a criminal thing. Now I go to the word theory.
A theory is a plausible or scientifically acceptable general principle or body of
principles offered to explain phenomena. A belief,
policy, or procedure proposed or followed as the basis of action. An ideal or
hypothetical set of facts, principles, or circumstances often used in the phrase in
theory. A hypothesis assumed for the sake of argument or investigation, an unproved
assumption, a body of theorems presenting a concise systematic view of a subject,
theory of equations. So the word theory, Yes,
the lettering is so small on my screen, I can’t tell what the definition is.
Can you read it? Yeah, that’s what I just read. I just read that to you.
I didn’t get it. Okay. Is it okay if we just have you just go over the audio or
we can go over another time? Oh yeah, I’m sorry. That’s right. sorry you’re good
okay so you know the idea of a theory by itself right the fact a theory a
conspiracy these are all things in and of themselves that any reasonable honest
person could say yeah of course these things you know theories there’s nothing wrong
with theories they’re used all of the time to come to facts they are used all of
the time to discover scientific principles. They are, any reasonable person,
if you don’t use a theory, you’re a liar. Because everybody uses theories to be
able to come to their ultimate conclusions on any fact. You start off with something
and then you work to either prove it or disprove it, but it’s the working theory,
the working idea until you come to be to the knowledge of what it is. So we have
now the word conspiracy theory would be right what it should mean is a plausible
scenario behind criminal acts perpetrated by two or more individuals that needs
further investigation to prove or disprove right that’s all it is the conspiracy
theory is just something that we haven’t proven yet but it’s plausible right uh mark
yes yes this last definition uh really resolves my concern,
but I am concerned in that first page, Webster. You know, all the definitions they
gave there, the one who stood out the most, was a hypothetical set of facts. A
theory is based on facts. It’s analysis of facts.
So a lot of those definitions really weren’t accurate in terms of saying it’s making
facts and analyzing it based on logic developing a hypothesis from those facts.
So just say it’s a hypothetical set of facts suggest they’re not real facts. I
think that’s kind of a important point. This definition here, this term, helps us
all that sum. But see my point? Yeah, absolutely. So, yeah, it’s important to
understand that a good, a reasonable theory is going to be based on previously
determined things that we do know. You can’t just a legitimate theory can’t like
that. That’s I think what we had a previous training on the theory of evolution or
the theory of the Big Bang is it is not a plausible or a reasonable theory because
it is not based on predetermined pre -established facts. And so a good responsible
conspiracy theory would be something that is based on predetermined facts to say,
okay, because of these predetermined facts, we’ve come to this plausible scenario.
Let’s investigate further to see if this is actually what happened, right? But not
hypothetical set of facts. Right. So, but what have they done,
though? they’ve changed it from what it should mean to this is what you know the
idea when somebody says conspiracy theory these are the images that come into their
mind and it’s by design they want anybody that talks about conspiracy to be seen as
a you know just a complete nut and so what because of this we have a job to
overcome the brainwashing. And that’s why I focus so much, not on theories, but on
facts.
And so, right, we have the conspiracy fact is a criminal evil act between two or
more people that actually occurred. And we can prove it, right? That’s a conspiracy
fact. And so that’s what we focus on so much. And so that we don’t have,
as, you know, we don’t give people the plausible deniability to say, oh, that’s just
a whacked out theory. But, hey, here is the receipts for everything that we’re
saying. And there’s just, there’s no way, there’s no if, ands or buts about it.
So that way we can overcome the, the propaganda machine by saying, okay, let’s,
let’s maybe, when we, you know, amongst ourselves and whatnot, we kind of avoid the
theorizing but come together as we do to be able to say okay what is the facts
that we can come to and then present those to the public yes mark yes even here i
excuse me i have some problems okay what gosh it’s blocked oh there you go uh the
act let’s say that there’s a conspiracy to murder somebody Yes. And based on this,
they’re saying a criminal evil act, so that would be the murder. That wouldn’t be
the conspiracy. This conspiracy is the plotting, the organizing. Sure. They’re planning
it out. So I think it’s kind of important to realize the plotting and then the
execution are the specific crimes, whether it’s treason,
whether it’s murder, whatever those are and so this here is talking about the actual
acts instead of the really the conspiracy thank you for the clarification because
yeah my intent was the whole entire process the conspiracy process in the beginning
the planning the plotting the organizing the making sure that it happens effectively
and in the way that they wanted to and then the actual completion of that act was
my intention to kind of put that all together into one thing. But so thank you for
the clarification.
So we’re going to get into conspiracy facts. This is what the facts, the fact is
that Ted Wilson, the former mayor of Salt Lake City, the director to UK and Utah’s
Southern Wellness Alliance, which are linked to the program of Agenda 21. It’s a
fact that he said that Utah has a power structure that’s quite concentrated intends
to operate behind closed doors at the Alta Club. So this, you know, a lot of times
people are sticklers like, well, he didn’t say we conspire together to do things.
Well, there are, you know, even though there’s no real synonyms where that’s why we
have different words, but there are things that have similar, there are words that
have similar meanings. And when you put together, right, if you read the definition
of the word, just because it didn’t have the word in the definition doesn’t mean
you didn’t just define the word. And what he just did there was define conspiracy.
Go ahead. Mark, were you going to say something? Oh, no, I was just saying to
myself, you’re absolutely right. Oh, okay. Yeah. So he just defined it. Just because
he didn’t use the word didn’t mean that they weren’t engaging in that thing. So he
defined what a conspiracy is.
the way the Radical Right believes the Communist Act. In fact, this network, which
we may identify as the Roundtable Groups, has no aversion to cooperating with the
Communists or any other group and frequently does so. I know of the operation of
this network because I have studied it for 20 years and was permitted for two years
in the early 60s to examine its papers and secret records. I have no aversion to
it or to most of its aims and have for much of my life been close to it and to
many of its instruments. I have objected both in the past and recently to a few of
its policies, but in general, my chief difference of opinion is that it wishes to
remain unknown, and I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known.
So again, he defines the actions of a conspiracy, that there is a group of people,
There is a network of individuals that have no aversion to working with it,
right? They, it says that they believe that, let’s see here, which operates in the
way that the, that the, what he calls radical right, believes the communist act. So
he’s saying, we are doing the things that the communists do, and we work with
communists. Communists are a criminal conspiracy. Communism is a criminal conspiracy in
the United States. So he’s admitting, if we know the definitions of these words and
what he’s saying, he is saying, he’s admitting that he has studied the works and he
supports the efforts of this criminal conspiracy to build a global government,
a global tyranny. And so again, it’s a conspiracy fact that these, you know, that
he is saying that there is this network that exists that factually is conspiring to
do these things. Now we have Cecil Rhodes in his last Will and Testament that was
written with him and William Steed, which says to share a scheme to take the
government of the whole world. His road, meaning Rhodes idea of the secret society,
broadened and made presentable to the public without in any way revealing the
esoteric truth that lay behind. Mr. Rhodes recognized this and eagerly welcomed it.
So his secret society,
part of that network is the Rhodes Scholarship Program, which many people in
religious and government positions are a part of. And this is that secret society
that is working, right, to, in a scheme to take the governments of the world.
So this is a criminal act that is in secret. That is with the, well,
this is the criminal, their plan, their plot to build this world government in
secret is a criminal act. And it is by definition, even though he didn’t use the
word. He didn’t say, we are involved in a conspiracy to build world government. He
used the definition of the word conspiracy to say, we are in a conspiracy to build
world government.
He continues on. He says, the only thing feasible to carry out this idea is a
secret society gradually absorbing the wealth of the world to be devoted to such So
we see that, you know, inflation isn’t just a nasty, horrible theft that’s being
used to tax the people. It’s being used to absorb the wealth of the world to build
this satanic world government. You are being stolen from through inflation as a part
of this conspiracy to build a satanic world government. That’s what he says right
there. So not only is this a wicked conspiracy to build satanic world government,
this conspiracy involves the theft of everything you own to be able to build it.
So they couldn’t just build it on their own, which would be bad enough. They are
using the arm of government to build it through your wealth.
And again, conspiracy fact, we have the elites of the world in academia,
in business, and in government, meeting every summer to engage in these satanic
rituals. Whoops, let me go back.
Will we burn thee once again this night? Rains the deep sign empty. We shall read
This summer sets of grace. He shall burn me once again.
Which hitherto thee have fought from regents where I reign. He fools and priests.
Okay,
so it’s a fact we have George Bush there. You have George Bush Jr. there. You have
Newt Ginnrich there. You have Clarence Thomas there, you know, just New Grinrich, I
mean, not new, I already said that, Richard Nixon, you have Ronald Reagan, you just,
the list goes on and on and on of powerful leaders going there to engage in this
ritual where they are doing a, a ceremony, a religious ordinance to a
Babylonian idol to gain the knowledge that they want to be able to build this world
government. And at the Bohemian Grove every year, that’s where the things like the
atomic bomb were discussed, or things like the United Nations were organized. The
plans for this world government that these other tentacles are a part of are plotted
at the Bohemian Grove, where they engage in these satanic rituals. That is a fact.
David Rockefeller admits himself that he says that people believe that we’re part of
Assyria Kabaal, working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing
my family and me as internationalists, and of conspiring. He actually uses the word
conspiracy. So he’s like, it doesn’t even use the definition of the word conspiracy.
He flat out says, of conspiring with others around the world to build him more.
talking about tonight and using these words and using this understanding of what
conspiracy is and so that when when people around you might poo -poo the idea of a
conspiracy, you have the internal confidence to be able to say, I’m not talking
about a theory. His autobiography is not a theory. It’s not a theoretical thing that
exists out there. It’s an actual factual thing that exists and this man who is in
a position to know and a position to do admits what he’s doing and what the facts
show and why other people have accused him of these things he admits it and he
says that he’s proud of what he’s doing that is not a theory this is a fact okay
the united nations publish an article says it’s a terrible to have to say this
world population must be stabilized and do that. We must eliminate 350 ,000 people
per day. This is so horrible to contemplate that we shouldn’t even say it,
but the general situation in which we are involved is lamentable. So he’s saying
it’s horrible that I have to say this. Doesn’t want to say it out loud, doesn’t
want to have to publish it, but he’s like, hey guys, we got to get to business
and we’ve got to start killing 350 ,000 people every single day.
That’s a fact. These people that are a part of this network, that I’ve mentioned
these previous slides, that is their goal.
Okay. So we’ll see memes like this and we’ll, you know, different, this idea or a
variation of this idea of, right, I need new conspiracy theories because all my old
ones came true. It’s not,
It’s not like you just made something. We’re not just making up stuff and all of a
sudden it came true. We have to stop. That’s not. People might think it’s funny.
But it’s it is feeding into the conspiracies language and verbiage and feeds into
the idea that, oh, it’s just a theory. There’s nothing to it. But all of a sudden,
hey, we were right. You know, just look of this, look of the draw, but it’s not
the look of the draw because it’s not a theory. What we’re talking about is a
fact, right? We use the phrase conspiracy or conspiracy fact.
Don’t fall for their trap of equating fact with theory, right? So if you’re talking
about something that you can’t prove, simply maybe call it a well -educated theory.
So that way it’s you know debunk so let me and so it’s it’s important that we
don’t use their words we don’t use the word conspiracy theory um when we’re talking
about a conspiracy because then it just feeds into it we need to keep we need to
replace the word theory with fact and when we’re talking about these things because
we can’t poo poo we can’t shy away from using the word conspiracy because that
feeds into what the conspiracy wants us to do, but we don’t want to do like what
that, uh, that meme says is referred to it as a theory and speak about these
things as if we didn’t know it was true until we had the evidence come out. We
were just saying it. No, everything we’re talking about, we can prove. We have the
receipts for. It’s a conspiracy fact. And we need to not be afraid to say it.
That is, you know, As we look in our member manual on the section on exposing and
destroying the conspiracy, we understand the importance of naming it that and calling
it that. But at the same time, we don’t feed into the conspiracies’ verbiage and
propaganda by calling it a theory. We just, we beat it down. It’s a conspiracy
fact. Like we did during the fake pandemic. We didn’t call it the pandemic. It’s a
fake pandemic because we have to overcome the verbiage that’s being used by the
conspiracy to instill the fear or in this case to negate what is being said.
And so, but we have to use the word that they don’t want us to use while
reclaiming it. And we do that. We expose and we stop the conspiracy. One of the
most effective tools that we have is the book invasion. And as I mentioned the
book, there are other fantastic books that expose the conspiracy. You have the
insiders by Perloth. You have none dare call it conspiracy. But those talk about the
global conspiracy. The importance of invasion is the fact that it shows you how this
global conspiracy infiltrates your local community, but it also shows you the the
game plan. What is the plan that we have for stopping this conspiracy.
And so we have the problem and the solution all together. And as we do that,
because it is not a theory, because the things in this book are facts and they are
documented, the receipts are all given so that you know that you can trust and that
we, as we’ve done in previous trainings, shown you everything that that proves that
what we said is true in the book, and it always has been, and so that you can
depend on these things to be able to help you in your efforts to expose the
conspiracy and to stop the conspiracy with the program within those pages,
along with the supplement, of course, with the member manual. And so with that,
you know, we include our training tonight with some extra time,
but I wanted to make sure that we did again, as I mentioned just a minute ago,
the importance of seeing the evolution over time of the word conspiracy,
seeing the evolution of how the conspiracy has tried to link it with kookery.
And so that way nobody wants to even look at the fact that we are facing a
conspiracy. we need to understand those things and so that when we warn our neighbor
about what’s going on, we are confident and we don’t get sucked into the verbiage
of the conspiracy wants us to get sucked into. So Mark, yeah, you have your hand
up. Yes, previously you gave a great analogy and that’s really why it’s so important
to identify the conspiracy when you talked about going after the arsonists and not
just their fire just putting out their fires because if you don’t eliminate the
arsonists the conspiracy then they can have the power and the conspiracy so powerful
this elite cabal and all their minions are so powerful they can just continue to
work towards this communistic totaltering world government so i think that’s and their
evidence suggests They know that’s why it’s so important to have we don’t identify
the conspiracy. And the only solution is we have to stop the conspiracy. We have to
identify the people. We have to put them in jail, expose their organizations like
you do in your books, invasions, so forth. So that’s why it’s so important. We
can’t solve a problem. We don’t are willing to call the problem by its name. Well,
like you just said right there right what is it that they’re afraid of they
obviously just like we talked about last week they’re afraid of us opting out of
their system and they’re afraid of being named for who they are so we can’t you
know get sucked into these things of and this is something i i hear a lot is well
if we just focus on the good principles of what we’re trying to build then then we
can be treated you know people will listen to us more and we’ll be able to reach
more people? Well, yeah, because the conspiracy doesn’t care about you. You’re not a
threat to them when you don’t identify them and call them by what they are. And
they’re not a threat because they have so much power over the opinion controlling
institutions. So we don’t have to worry too much about, you know,
a handful of people knowing what’s going on. It’s the masses that we have they have
to worry about. Yeah.
Any other thoughts or we’re a little bit early tonight, but does you may have any
questions or anything they’d like to add to this topic before we close and have
open form?
Well, just one example, Ben. So you mentioned inflation earlier. So inflation is
created by these people, various ways, Federal Reserve,
counterfeiting money and so forth, which is the definition of inflation, increase in
money supply. So that’s one of the fires they’ve created and they’re expanding and
using. But they have so many other fires, and that fire is hard to put out just
that one fire because they have so much control over what people believe. We have
to, you know, sure, you have to go after the fire some extent. I think of an
analogy, You’re in a small room or a bathroom and somebody throws a cobra,
a deadly cobra in there. Well, you have to go after the cobra, but you also have
to go after the person and throw through the cobra in the room. So mainly we have
to, the most important thing is what you’re talking about tonight. We have to be
able to argue there is a conspiracy and identify who there are and then eventually
get to the point of that was a New York state committee you were talking about a
commission yeah where you have to identify it and then uh you have to polish it
yep yep yeah and that’s the thing is what we’re doing was we’re not just by
ourselves right if we’re in a room by ourselves and we kind of just got to focus
on the cobra but as we gain in numbers and in strength we can have a group of
people focusing on the fire and then a group of people focusing on the arsonist and
we can work on this and take care of both problems at once.
Anybody else?
I just add one more thing. You brought up a Narek Hall’s Conspiracy and Perlost
books, and I talked about this a little last time. It is so important that we can,
for people that are willing to see the truth and can reason to get these books in
their hands. So if we haven’t read them, I strongly recommend we all read them. And
then you share them. And then share them with people that care about justice,
care, our reasoning that people and don’t have a bias are willing to seek out the
truth on such important matters. And then once you get there, they’re playing on our
field because we have the facts and logic on our hand. So, I mean, there’s so many
fires they’re setting, but those books expose so many of the fires that you get a
picture of its size, immensity, and control. Like you talked about, controlling the
academia, media, and, of course, government.
Okay, thank you. Let’s go ahead and wrap it up, and then we’ll go into open form,
and we can start talking about whatever you guys want to, but let’s have a closing
prayer first. Pam, would Pam Clinch, would you be willing to say the closing prayer
for us?
Yes, I’d be glad to.
Heavenly Father, we are great for this time we’ve spent together tonight. We’re great
for just the opportunity of Lord Norman and sort these things out that are part of
our world every day. We pray to have wisdom, to see the conspiracy, to be willing
to call them out and to change the things that we can. We pray for safety and
peace and the lives we’re trying to live in that we can feel a spirit and make
proper choices. As we defend the liberties that has given us, we are so grateful
for our association with each other. And we say these things in the name of our
Savior, Jesus Christ.
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